LL-L "Etymology" 2005.02.24 (01) [E]

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From: Kevin Caldwell <kcaldwell31 at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.02.23 (04) [E]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Etymology
>
> A connection between "counting" (= "reckoning") and "telling" (=
> "relating,"
> "reporting") appears to be indeed confined to Germanic and Romance.
>
> Semantically it makes sense to me if I think of telling (stories) as an
> enumeration of events ("First this happened, then that happened, ...").
>
> However, I'd expect this to apply to Celtic too, given its relatively
> close
> relationship to Romance.  But this seems to be not so.
>
> It does, however, apply sporadically in Baltic, but apparently not in its
> closest relatives Slavonic and Greek.
>
> Latvian (*/skait-/):
> uzskaitīt 'enumerate'
> skaitāms 'countable'
> neskaitāms 'countless'
> skaitīt, saskaitīt 'to tell', 'to report'
> ataskaita 'report'

In Russian, at least, the connection seems to be between reading and
counting:

читать chitat' = to read
считать schitat' = to count, compute (also, to consider)
счёт schet = calculation, reckoning, bill, account

The Russian word for "tell" (сказать/skazat') seems to be connected with
words for showing, pointing, directing, or ordering (казаться/kazat'sya,
указать/ukazat', приказать/prikazat', etc.).

Kevin Caldwell

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From: jverhoeven <jverhoeven at xtra.co.nz>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.02.23 (01) [E]

From: Joyce Verhoeven > jverhoeven at xtra.co.nz
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.02.22 (13) [E]
>
> Relatedly, is it true that Scottish kids are taught at school how to write
> a
> 'recount', that is, an account of something that happened? I remember
> stumbling across this in a schools programme years ago and puzzling over
> it.
>
Here in  New Zealand my children  write a 'recount' in school -  can't
remember it being called this when I was at shcool though - maybe too long
ago
>
Joyce

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