LL-L "Etymology" 2005.07.22 (04) [E]

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.07.22 (03) [B/E/LS]


Heather Rendall wrote:
"Well it certainly applied AFTER they had come because even today the area 
from Chester to the Severn Estuary i.e. the Welsh border  is known as the 
Marches - Marcher country - ruled from Ludlow by the Marcher Lord."

What is now Cumbria and Northumberland were also known as the Scottish 
Marches, and I think the southern Scottish shires were known as the English 
Marches (or its equivalent in Scots) in Scotland.

Go raibh maith agat,

Criostóir.


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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Folks,

As I was putting finishing touches to various anniversary site pages, I 
stumbled across three particularly interesting words in our Arend's 
Hoogeveen Low Saxon version 
(http://www.lowlands-l.net/anniversary/index.php?page=dreents-hoogeveen).

PRUGEL (pruygel, Prügel): child
I assume this is related to German _Prügel_ 'stick for beating', 'beating'
(Nice! ... ;-) )

DOERAK (durak): fool, idiot (and other lovely things, I'm sure)
I wondered what a Russian word (дурак _durak_) was doing in a Drenthe Low 
Saxon dialect. But discovery of the following item leads me to assume that 
this one, too, reached the language via a fringe "jargon" (bargoens) from 
Yiddish, in which דוראַק _durak_, loaned from Russian or Ukrainian, is 
sometimes used.

KEBAAL: mysterious to-do, questionable happening
related to German _Kabale_, English "cabal," etc., going back to Hebrew 
קַבָּלָה _qabbâlâh_ (most likely via Yiddish קבלה _kabole_ and a jargon), 
English "Cabala" or "Kabbalah," denoting Jewish philosophy of mysticism, a 
doctrine of esoteric knowledge of God and the universe

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

P.S.: The anniversary site keeps evolving and awaits further contributions 
from you and non-listers (http://www.lowlands-l.net/anniversary/).

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