LL-L "Etymology" 2005.05.03 (02) [A/E/LS]

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From: Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.04.30 (04) [E/LS]

Liewe Jonny, Ron:

Onderwerp: Etymology

> Mi wunnert de Uutsprook van dat Prefix 'Hell-', anners heet dat door, wo
> dat
> sou düchdig warm is, 'Höll'-'. Or hett dat an dennen Innen mit dennen
> Düvel
> rein gonnix anne Mütz?
> Kennt anner Lüü' dit Woord ook?

Ek herhinner my nou van die Noorse seegodin, Hel. In haar woning het die
verdrinkde seerowers net soos hulle slagveldgeseuwelde eweknieë in Valhalla
daglank plesierige oorlog gevoer en naglank net so lekker vees gevier. Maar
sy, Hel self is 'n sombere wese, met net half 'n gesig.

Nou dink ek aan die voorsetsel 'hel-' as sulks: U sien dit daar in die naam
'Valhalla'. Soos ek die woord ontleed beteken dit 'Blinke Saal'. Ron, het ek
dit reg? Die woord is verwant aan ons Afrikaans 'hel = duidelik, hoorbaar,
hard, glansend, blinkend (in die sonlig) ens. en 'helder'. = duidelik,
maklik sigbaar, deursigtend, blinkend ens.

Is daar nie 'n dorpie in Noorweë by name 'Hel' nie? Maar dis seker 'n koue
plek Die warmte van die saalbank langs die herd, so lees ons uit die
vergange daë, is mos immer die verlange van die banneling, die 'Ardstapa'.
Nog iets: Ons heidene voorvaders, toe hulle eers uit die mond van die
sendelinge van die straf van die sondiges gehoor het, het van hulle glo
gejuig, "Ons sal warm in die Hel verkeer!"

I remember the Norse sea-goddess, Hel. In her dwelling the drowned
sea-rovers, just like their battlefield-fallen fellows in Valhalla, spent
the day in pleasurable warfare & the night just so happily in carousing. But
she, Hel herself was a sombre being, with only half a face.

Now I call to mind the prefix 'hel-' as such: You see it there in the name
'Valhalla'. As I decypher the word it means 'Bright Hall'. Ron, am I right?
The word is related to our Afrikaans 'hel' = clear, distinct, loud,
gleaming, bright (in the sunlight) &c. & 'helder' = clear, easily visible,
translucent, bright &c.

Isn't there a small town in Norway named 'Hel'? But that's surely a cold
place. The warmth of a bench by the fire, so we read out of those days gone
by, was always the longing of an exile, the 'Ardstapa'. Another bit: Our
heathen forefathers, when they first heard out of the mouths of the
missionaries of the punishment of the sinners, some of them reputedly
cheered, "We shall be warm in Hell!"

Groete,
Mark

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