LL-L "History" 2005.05.12 (08) [E]

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From: Sandy Fleming <sandy at scotstext.org>
Subject: "History" [E]

> From: Glenn Simpson <westwylam at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: history [e]
>
> Furthermore, comments that the English weren't referred to as 'Saxish' is
> an
> interesting one. The biggest group of settlers to arrive were the Angles,
> from which the word English is derived. Bede for instance tells us that
> all
> the different settler
> groups understood themselves to be English and referred to themselves as
> English, although obviously there were different sub-groups within this
> wider definition.
>
> It is only in comparatively modern times when we get introduction by
> historians of the phrase Anglo-Saxon.
> The old English did not refer to themsleves as such - simply English.

There's a circularity in this argument. Certainly the old English refered to
themselves as English, but by this, in earlier times, they meant they were
Angles.

In the south west were Saxons, who originally didn't refer to themselves as
English, as we can see, for example, in the town name of "Englishcombe"
south of Bristol - a settlement of Angles amongst the Saxons was
distinguished as English.

Sandy
http://scotstext.org/

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