LL-L "Etymology" 2005.05.22 (03) [LS]

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From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
Subject: Etymology

Leyve Lowlanners,

weyt Ji, wat eyn _Doysbaddel_, _Döösbaddel_ is? Or 'n _Dummbatz_?

Is dat tweyde ouk van LS-Oorsprong? Wo koomt  _-baddel_ or _-batz_ van avv?
Dennen '_baddel_ hevvt wy woll in al de '-bydels/büdels_', G: 'Beutel',
'Sack' ('Plumpsack', 'Saftsack' etc.), man- seeker byn ik door amend ne by.
Eyn 'Batzen' weyr jo woll tou froyhern Tyden 'n Oort van minnerweert'sch
'Penunse'- minner as 'n Pennen in uns goude Dyytsch-Mark-Tyden.

Greutens

Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Leyve Jonny,

Vun "buydel" un "baddel" ~ "bardel" weetst Du schynts so veel af as ik dat
dou.  (Mutst ook nich "schyt-buydel" vör 'baby' vergeten.  ;-) )

Wat "does-" an-langt, dat hangt sachs tosamen mit "doesen", "doesig" un
"doesel", up 't wichtigst mit "does(e)" (m. or f.!) 'Taumel', 'Dusel',
'Gedankenlosigkeit', 'Halbschlaf', un dat kan mit "dusel" tosamen-hangen.

Mag al dat tosamen-hangen mit düsse woyrd', al mit 't beduyden '(mit 'n
knüppel) slagen'?

Oost-Vreyssch _dossen_
Vroy-Ney-Hollandsch _doesen_ < Middel-Hollandsch _dossen_
Dialekt-Duytsch _dusen_, _tusen_, _tausen_
Ingelsch _douse_ (16. jh./eeu vun Hollandsch?)
Schotsch _douse_, _doose_

Ook Ingelsch _douse_ '(swaar) slag'
Ook Schotsch _dousle_, _dowsle_, _doosle_ '(swaar) slag'
('heavy blow', 'sound thump')

Villicht nich.  Den kun dat mit "doeschen" (~ "doerschen") 'dreschen'
tosamen-hangen.

Groytens an Dy un Dyn tuun-kruypers!  Waar Dy vör d'n loyw'!
Reinhard/Ron

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