LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.11.09 (06) [E]
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09 November 2005 * Volume 06
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From: heather rendall <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.11.09 (05) [E]
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>Which British King took a Flemish wife -<
Edward the 3rd and Philippa of Hainault
Heather
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From: heather rendall <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.11.07 (10) [E]
Message text written by INTERNET:lowlands-l at LOWLANDS-L.NET
>was it not Mary Queen
of Scots who on her death-bed said, "Dunkirk is written on my heart" <
Actually it was the loss of Calais that she rued to her death.
Heather
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From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
Subject: LL-L"Etymology"
Paul wrote:
> Speakers of different dialects! found it much harder to understand each
> other than today. Caxton quotes the case of 'a certain merchant named (or
> from?) Sheffield who asked for eggs in a London shop. The 'goodwyfe' said
> she spoke no French, and didn't know what he meant. He said he spoke no
> French either, he just wanted some eggs. Another customer explained that
> the
> man 'wolde have eyren'. The lady said, 'well, why did he not he say so?'
> Caxton concludes 'what sholde a man say in these times? eggs or eyren?'.
Is it an extreme example for those times? It reminds me to (spoken at the
same time) Middle-High-German. But I don't know much about this, I should
confess- Middle Saxon I'm more interested in.
I read it out, this afternoon, to my son (11 years old, and just *seriously*
beginning to learn English, with some un-understandable difficulties, as I
think), an he was as surprised as I for this obvious similarity to the
Standard German of today/yesterday.
But- I don't think it was a typical example for those times. I assume it to
be a Bate's election to point out something in your thread.
BTW: I didn't follow all of it. Where, in England of that times, people
liked to speak this way (sorry- but Ron missed to add any header/topic!)? I
just found any nearness to the nice little Chanèl ;-)!
For futural times I promise to watch your interesting postings (and it's the
same with Cristòir and Isaac) more attentively, Paul!!
Greutens/Regards
Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm
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