LL-L "Etymology" 2005.09.05 (03) [E]
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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2005.09.04 (04) [E]
Ron wrote:
"Related to this is _klaks_ (, cf. German _Klecks_, Dutch _klodder_)
denoting a spot or stain, such as on clothing or on a tablecloth."
I use the word _claggy_ to describe muck of any sort clinging to something.
I don't think it's Nottingham English, Cornish English or Derry English /
Scots in origin. I think I picked it up from my Australian wife. The root is
clearly *_clag_, although this is not used in English as a noun to my
knowledge.
Go raibh maith agat,
Criostóir.
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology
Thanks, Críostóir.
I'm familiar with Australian "claggy" but never connected it with the Low
Saxon words.
The OED:
<quote>
CLAG, v.
[Not traced beyond the 15th c.: perh. of Norse origin, cf. Da. _klag_,
_klagge_, sticky mud, clay, _klæg_, _klæget_ viscous, glutinous, sticky,
which point to the same origin as OE. _clæg_, CLAY. There may have been some
subseq. association with _clog_; but in localities where _clag_ is
indigenous, it is kept quite distinct from _clog_.]
1. trans. To bedaub (the clothes), clot (the hair) with anything sticky
and tenacious, as miry clay, glue, toffee, etc.
</quote>
<quote>
CLAG, n. [northern dial.]
[app. f. the verb.]
1. The process or product of clagging; a sticky mass adhering to feet or
clothes, entangled in hair, or the like; a clot of wool consolidated with
dirt about the hinder parts of a sheep, etc.
</quote>
<quote>
CLAGGOK [Sc. Obs.]
[f. CLAG + -OCK.]
One clagged with mire, ‘a draggle-tail’ (Jam.).
</quote>
<quote>
CLAGGUM [north. dial.]
[f. CLAG v.]
A common name in Scotland and the north of England for treacle-toffee.
</quote>
<quote>
CLAGGY, a.
[f. CLAG + -Y.]
Tending to clag, or to form sticky lumps or clots; tenaciously sticky,
adhesive. Hence clagginess.
</quote>
Perhaps this group of words has been hanging around in Australian for longer
because of its connection with sheep.
I wonder if Low Saxon _klakkern_ and _klaks_ are of onomatopoetic origin --
something like "splat."
Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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