LL-L "Grammar" 2006.04.27 (02) [A/E]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 27 January 2006 * Volume 02
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From: speegled at slu.edu
Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2006.04.25 (07) [A/D/E]

> From: Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
>
> Daar is deesdae wankelrigheid oor die woord 'geen' wat baie (veral
> Engels-moedertaalsprekendes) voel verg ook die 'nie' slot, maar in
teendeel.
> Dit is eintlik 'n positiewe verklaring oor 'n negetiewe hoeveelheid, en dra
> die selfde grammatiekale waarde as 'min' en 'een'.

en verder...

> Om uit te brei (oor my vorige brief in die lekker string):
>
> Betreffende 'Geen' en die slot-'nie'.
>
> Om die noodsaaklikheid van 'n positiewe verklaring oor 'n negetiewe
> hoeveelheid uit te lig, verbeel jou van 'n kosskoolkind wat van plan is om
> die middernag appels uit die hoof se tuin te gaan stroop. Maatjie sê
> prontuit, "Jy't geen kans Ou Maat. Ja, Meneer het 'n appelboom, maar ook 'n
> boerbul!"
> Maar die eerste antwoord, "Glo my Ou: Ek't nie geen kans nie! Ek het
eers by
> die kombuis gestroop." en wys 'n rouvleisie in sy sakkie.

Hi Mark,

I guess I am not quite clear on what you mean here.  Do I understand you
correctly that it depends on the exact meaning one wishes to convey
whether one should say "Jy't geen kans" or "Jy't geen kans nie"?  I must
admit that I am one of those "Engels-moedertaalsprekendes" who likes to
add the "nie" after "geen".  Have I worked so hard to add that second nie
for nothing?!  Say it ain't so!

Best,
Darrin Speegle

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