LL-L 'Morphology' 2006.07.07 (03) [E]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 07 July 2006 * Volume 03
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From: 'Marcel Bas' <roepstem at hotmail.com>
Subject: LL-L 'Phonology' 2006.07.06 (01) [E]

Dear all, Helge,

>In connection to the consonant shift-question as e.g. in water/wasser I wonder
>how it happened that Scouse (the Liverpool dialect) has a consonant shift almost
>similar to the High German one when t becomes ts, p becomes pf and k becomes kh?

A similar thing occurs in Leiden. I don't know if it is a recent innovation, but
in this dialect labial, dental and velar plosives are affricatives.
_p_ becomes bilabial _pf_, _t_ becomes _ts_ and _k_ becomes _kh_ (slightly more
backed than, say, the Proto-Indo-european _k'_ and the Carinthian _kh_, and not
at all similar to the various High German _kh_ /kX/, as in Tyrolean dialects).
_d_ tends to become _dz_, but _b_ does not change.

So you get:

"Lekher wirtsjî, tsoch?" (lekker weertje, toch?)
"Wats stsaats-ie dzur dzan tse khaaikhî?" (wat staat-ie d'r dan te kijken?)
"Kètsan!" (kijk dan!) (assimilation of kt > tts)
"Watsan?!" (wat, dan?)

To me this seems a regional innovation, since I cannot think of other Hollandic
dialects where this occurs.

Best regards,

Marcel.

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Wow, Marcel!

Does this mean that Leiden Dutch has/had initial aspiration?  That would be very
unusual in Low Franconian.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron




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