LL-L "History" 2006.03.14 (02) [E]
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14 March 2006 * Volume 02
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From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
Subject: LL-L "History" 2006.03.13 (14) [E]
> From: Heiko Evermann <heiko.evermann at gmx.de>
> Subject: LL-L "History" 2006.03.12 (09) [E]
>
> Hi Ron,
>
>> By the way, what was that during the last elections in
>> Schleswig-Holstein?
>> The election results were pretty much even between Christian
>> Democrats and
>> Social Democrats, and then the Danish minority vote swung it in favor of
>> the Democrats, aided by the regulation that the Danish minority's votes
>> count heavier than non-minority votes in order to give the minority an
>> advantage (while otherwise it would make no real difference). This
>> caused
>> a lot of consternation on the part of the Christian Democrats and
>> right-wing parties, I believe. Wasn't it something like that?
>
> So to me that looks as if you have missed the most interesting part of
> it.
>
> For the sake of all readers: here is the story:
> 1) in Germany we only count votes of parties that get at least 5% of the
> votes.
How do they know they've got at least 5% unless they count them?
I suppose you mean take into acount
David Barrow
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From: Elsie Zinsser <EZinsser at mhsc.org.za>
Subject: L-L "History" was "Language varieties"
Hi all,
A few hundred Boers from the defeated Transvaal and Orange Free State
Republics left South Africa in 1902 to settle in Patagonia, Argentinia,
Chihuahua, Mexico and, as I recently found out, also in the San Antonio,
Texas.
Afrikaans Radio transmitted a very interesting programme in the early 70’s
on the Boer people in Patagonia, Argentina. Some of the older folk could
still speak Afrikaans very well despite being married to Spanish speakers,
but younger speakers (there was a woman in her 40’s) spoke Afrikaans with a
very distinct Spanish accent.
Paul, for your enlightenment: The Cape Colony was ruled by the British since
1806. The Boers who left the country after the Anglo Boer War came from the
defeated South African and Orange Free State Republics. They lost a third of
their total population after 27,000 of their women and children died in
British concentration camps, they lost their farms and livestock and their
fathers, brothers and husbands were shipped out to every possible corner in
the southern hemisphere. See: http://www.anglo-boer.co.za/boerpow.html and
http://www.boer.co.za/boerwar/hellkamp.htm
Regards,
Elsie Zinsser
>First Boer War, not wanting to live under British rule (which seems a bit
>odd, as the British virtually ruled that country to all extents economical!
>ly, if not politically). Anyway, apparently they still spoke a version that
>sounded rather quaint and old-fashioned to South Africans. I can't recall
>how many there were, and thus the likelihood of the community still
>existing
>30+ years later.
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