LL-L 'Etymology' 2006.09.14 (01) [E/LS]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 14 September 2006 * Volume 01
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From: 'Stellingwerfs Eigen' [info at stellingwerfs-eigen.nl]
Subject: LL-L 'Etymology'

Ron wrote:
> In some parts the same name is used for small, portable, foot-stool-like
> charcoal heaters onto which people used to place their feet

Liekewel in Stellingwarf as in Fryslân kenne we de hoolten _stove_ (Nl.:
stoof; in et Fr. is et ok wel een 'theelichtje') as voetesteun mit of zonder
verwarming. Bi'j een protte meensken staot et ding vandaege-de-dag nog in de
kaemer te pronk. In de stove ston vaeks een _test_ van eerdewark
(diggelgoed). In die test konnen dan gloeiende koolties uut de heerd daon
wodden, om zo de voeten een schoffien waarm holen te kunnen.
Stellingwarfs zeggien (uut et Stellingwarfs woordeboek): "Hi'j kan nog gien
stove maeken. (Hij verstaat zijn vak niet)"
Frysk zeggien (uut de Zantema): "Och, dat frommes is in útdroege
stovebrierder (persoon die steeds meent te moeten blijven (en daarbij veel
klaagt en zeurt))."
Mit een vrundelike groet uut Stellingwarf,
Piet Bult

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From: 'Kevin and Cheryl Caldwell' [kevin.caldwell1963 at verizon.net]
Subject: LL-L 'Etymology' 2006.09.12 (04) [E]

> From: 'jonny' [jonny.meibohm at arcor.de]
> Subject: LL-L 'Etymology' 2006.09.07 (01) [E/LS]
>
> Beste Lowlanners and Reyni,
>
> this evening I fell about a 'line' of related words:
>
> G: 'Ofen', E: 'oven' and 'stove', LS: 'Oben', but then G: 'Stoevchen'
> (diminutive; maybe of Dutch origin))
>
> All of them roughly are designating one and the same: a device to control
> fire
> within a house/room.
>
> What interesting kind of 'lautverschiebung'.
>
> The first German and English variety denoting an 'oven to heat a room',
> the
> second English one the same, but fired with gaz (??), and the third
> (German) just
> meaning a little , controlled flame suited to keep warm a can with tea.

To be more precise about the English terms: an oven is a heated _chamber_ in
which you cook things (by baking, roasting, broiling, etc.) while a stove is
a heated _surface_ on which you cook things (by boiling, frying, sautéing,
braising, etc.). A kitchen appliance that has both an oven and a stove (or
stovetop, or cooktop) is commonly called a stove as well, and is also known
as a range.

Both ovens and stoves can be fueled by natural gas, electricity, propane,
wood, or even coal.

A device that sits in a room and provides heat to the room can also be
called a stove (if it's fairly large - a small one that runs on electricity
or kerosene is just called a heater or space heater). Most such stoves in
the US are fueled by wood or pellets.

A device that provides heat to an entire house through air ducts (or by
creating steam which is then piped throughout the house where it gives off
heat using radiators in the individual rooms) is called a furnace, and can
be fueled by electricity, natural gas, heating oil, propane, or (formerly)
coal.

Camp stoves are portable cook tops usually fueled by propane. If you want to
bake or roast something while camping, you can use a dutch oven (a large
pot, usually made of cast iron).

Then there are oasts and kilns, which are special purpose ovens...

Kevin Caldwell

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