LL-L 'Grammar' 2007.02.02 (02) [E]

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L 'Grammar' 2007.02.01 (04) [E]

Mathias Rösel wrote:
Subject: LL-L 'Grammar' 2007.02.01 (01) [E/German]\

 A book called "Using German" I recently got out of the local library gave
examples of different regional grammar including "dieses Bier (zum beispiel)
ist mir.." rather than "dieses... ist mein/e.."  It said this was a Northern
habit.

  That may be Hassian, it's certainly not Northern German.
-- 
Mathias

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And from Jonny Meibohm

Yes- you and the book are quite right- it is said this way. But I don't
think it to be correct German.

Jonny and Mathias:

There is no way, as a foreign speaker, I'd ever use this sort of
non-standard grammar, but it's useful to know it exists.  Otherwise, I start
to think *I've* got it wrong!

Paul Finlow-Bates
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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L 'Orthography' 2007.02.01 (03) [E]

: Karl-Heinz Lorenz <Karl-Heinz.Lorenz at gmx.net>
Subject: LL-L 'Orthography' 2007.01.30 (04) [E]

For me a word order with the genetive in front looks best. Genitive is
hardly used in colloquial German (I don't know  any (real) German dialect
which uses the genitive), and this is probably why in written German the
genitive is dying, hence we say "Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod". And so
do the compound words: they replace genitives.

Regards
Karl-Heinz
What??!!!??
A quarter of my old declension tables are becoming obsolete????

Paul Finlow-Bates
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