LL-L "Etymology" 2009.06.06 (05) [EN]

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From: heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk <heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Morphology" 2009.06.06 (03) [DE-EN]

>From Heather Rendall heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk

Ron/Reinhard wrote: re Tschüß   (This happens to be of foreign origin too,
assumed to be from French *adieu* , though I still wonder about the *-s* and
if it might not come from Spanish *adios* , possibly loaned during the
Spanish-Dutch conflicts.)

I had always assumed that it came from the English " Cheers!" which would
explain the 's'.

Sadly for that theory we say Cheerio! to say Goodbye   and "Cheers!" as a
toast when we drink.

But "Cheers" is also used as a kind of "Thank you"

The sounds are so close that maybe there is an older use of "Cheers" instead
of "Cheerio" that it derives from.

Possible????

best wishes

Heather  from a (delightfully) rain drenched Worcestershire after 5 days of
temperatures higher than those in the Mediterranean !
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Hi, Heather!

You mentioned this theory on an earlier occasion. I must say that I find
something "attractive" about it, considering long-time contacts with English
among sailors of Northern Germany. Also, what I like is that you dare to
stretch etymologically.

The problem with it seems to be that apparently *tschüß* (which, as you
know, came to be imported into German) appears to come from *adschüß.*

Now ...  let's mix this up some more and ask if conversely "cheers!" for
"good-bye" might have been "inspired" by *tschüß!*, aided by "cheers!" for
"thanks!"...

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA, where we got tired of the tropical heat and sent it off to
Europe

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