LL-L "Terminology" 2009.05.13 (02) [EN]

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From: Mike Morgan <mwmosaka at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Terminology" 2009.05.12 (03) [EN]

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:20 AM, R/R wrote:

> Some South Asians occupied high offices in the British Raj or as law
> enforcement officers often beat down their own "rebellious" people.


And, i might add, 60-plus years after Independence, continue to do so...

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From: Wesley Parish <wes.parish at paradise.net.nz>
 Subject: LL-L "Terminology" 2009.05.12 (03) [EN]

On Wednesday 13 May 2009 09:50, Lowlands-L List wrote:
 <snip>
> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
>  Subject: Terminology
>
> Thanks for sharing your views, Wolfram, which aren't much different from
> mine.
>
> You wrote:
>
> On the other hand, several emperors of the Holy Roman Epire were Saxons,
> the Hansa was Saxon, Saxons colonized their Slavic neighbours in the East.
>
> True, but this in itself does not fundamentally change anything.
> Collaboration is a common result in colonization and suppression. Africans
> participated in African slave trade. Europeans engaged Native Americans to
> beat down other Native Americans. Among Slavic people, having been
declared
> "racially" inferior to Germanic people, there were thise that cooperated
> with the Nazis, many even voluntarily. Scottish and Welsh people served on
> the side of the English and as such sometimes worked against the national
> interest of their own people. Some South Asians occupied high offices in
> the British Raj or as law enforcement officers often beat down their own
> "rebellious" people. This sort of thing happens more easily where
> superficially there isn't much difference between groups and prestige and
> other types of incentives for integration seem irresistible.

I like to think of it as being "just politics as usual, but with a slightly
different cast this time round".  (One of the things that irritates me
hugely
with the discussion of this sort of historical event, is how things get so
polarized so quickly - the people who were colonized had their own separate
sets of interests, and sometimes they coincided with those of the
colonizers.)

Most of the people who get colonized are busy having (to them) monstrously
big
wars and conflicts amongst themselves, and they tend to see the colonizers
as
Yet Another Asset to help beat down their local enemies, only to realize,
far
too late, that they've become just another asset themselves.

Wesley Parish

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