[Lowlands-l] Google Translate

[Lowlands Languages & Cultures]

Fühlt sich vielleicht nicht so gut an, scheint aber so und nicht anders zu 
sein, Anja. Satzstellung ist aus meiner Sicht ein zwingendes Argument. 
Wahrscheinlich waren es die Wikinger, hieß es in dem Artikel.
Mathias



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Von: Lowlands Languages & Cultures
Betreff: Re: [Lowlands-l] Google Translate
Datum: 21.07.2017, 7:49 Uhr
An: lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org


I don't like the idea of creating a kind of rivalry between minority 
languages so this thread makes me feel uncomfortable. West Frisian is (as 
the North Frisian languages and Saterfrisian) a language of its own, even 
if it might show results of the contact to Dutch. I might say the same 
about Dutch as I wasn't able to learn it because my Low Saxon was stronger 
and taking control. I can read Dutch without big problems - so Dutch isn't 
more than a Low Saxon dialect, right? Okay, that was a pun. I hope you get 
my point.
Why cannot we applaude Google Translate and Facebook for their decision and 
work on for getting the same for Low Saxon and other minority languages?

As for the relations between the languages around the North Sea: Through 
the centuries they had many contacts because of migration, trade and 
politics. Of course that had an impact on the languages. English is even 
the best example how a language develops because of history. Anglo-Saxons, 
Danes, Normans - they all came to conquer what we know today as England. 
They all brought their own languages as sign of their mastery.

Greetings from Kiel,

Anja


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  	  	From: Lowlands Languages & Cultures 
[lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org]
Sent: 20/7/2017 9:50:18 PM
To: lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org
Subject: Re: [Lowlands-l] Google Translate 

Yes. Definitely lively, that's why we should make Google add it.
I really don't see the point of making West Frisian a seperate language 
though, 
as it doesn't contain that much of a unique vocabulary, and strongly 
resembles Dutch.  

בתאריך 20 ביולי 2017 8:24 אחה״צ,‏ "Lowlands Languages & Cultures" < 
lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org
<mailto:lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org> > כתב:
  On 20/07/2017 11:18 AM, Eitan wrote:

      Hi all,

        I've requested Facebook they should add low german into their
      language poll since they recently had added West Frisian which isn't
      much an obvious choice.

      That being the case, to my surprise Google Translate added West
      Frisian as well.

      I don't consider West frisian the closest language to English
      language because of certain reasons. Here's what I wrote:

      Low german (of plaudietsch language) is spoken by 450,000 people
      around the world, which is about on par with Frisian on the total. It
      has a rich body of literature, including the bible, and many unique
      expressions and vowel sounds.  
      Compared to what is spoken in west friesland, it's a fully-fledged
      and dynamic language. And while it is true that Frisian is recognised
      minority language in the Netherlands, Plautdietsch is recognised in
      belize and has a minority status there.

      Do you agree?

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf55TFRG-2w
  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf55TFRG-2w>
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lV4S4VLhV0
  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lV4S4VLhV0>
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdaLj8jkJfI
  <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdaLj8jkJfI>

  Sure doesn't look dead to me.

  Ed Alexander


   


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