Subject: Re: About human sacrifice.

[mike gaby]

My guess would be that these people returned to the Pleides, from whence
they came, along with their Pharaoh brethren.  The fall of Atlantis was just
too much for them! :)
Mike


>From: nahuat-l at server.umt.edu (by way of "John F. Schwaller"
><schwallr at selway.umt.edu>)
>Reply-To: nahuat-l at server.umt.edu
>To: Multiple recipients of list <nahuat-l at server.umt.edu>
>Subject: Subject: Re: About human sacrifice.
>Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:22:24 -0600
>
>Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:36:07 -0600 (MDT)
>From: Andreas C Schou <schoandr at cwis.isu.edu>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <nahuat-l at server.umt.edu>
>Subject: Re: About human sacrifice.
>
>On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Brad Smith wrote:
>
> > Same for Mayan pyramids built at least a hundred thousand years ago and
> > discovered by ignorant spaniards with rape and conquest on their minds,
> > that thought that the ignorant people using stone knives and ripping
> > people's hearts out and throwing them down the stairs to the roaring
> > crowd, were the ones who actually "built" them.
>
>It's extremely unlikely that, one hundred thousand years ago, Mesoamerica
>had any inhabitants whatsoever. Where are their tools? Where did they
>expand from? What language did they speak, and why is the language of the
>original monument-builders entirely extinct?
>
> > Wrong. The people living next to many of these "monuments" know
> > relatively nothing about them.
>
>Interesting. Are the obvious depictions of Mayans participating in common
>Mayan activities are simply a coincidence? How do you explain the
>replication of Mesoamerican iconography from permanent (temples) to
>impermanent (pottery) media?
>
> > They just "used" them for whatever ignorant and stupid ritual that the
> > "priest" class of peons told them to do.
>
>Interpretation of Mesoamerican myth is often touchy: though the stories
>are often bloody, evidence of such large-scale murder is seldom
>forthcoming ... and context is difficult to determine.
>
>Assumptions like that, if applied to the Bible, might lead one to
>believe that Christian communion endorses ritual cannibalism. This is
>obviously not the case ... unless you go to a church much different than
>mine. ;)
>
> > The mayans that ripped peoples hearts out knew nothing of any calendar,
> > much less how to interpret it.
>
>There is a certain racism inherent in your peculiar Danikenite posture.
>You theorize that savages like the Egyptians and the Mayans could never
>have developed culture on your own; Greece, Rome, and other 'white'
>civilizations, however, remain beyond the touch of your theoretical
>aliens.
>
>Danikenism is the response of a culture clinging to its last pretensions
>of superiority. When faced with irrefutable evidence that other cultures
>were at least as good as yours at doing certain things, you invent aliens
>to bootstrap the 'savages' up.
>
> > They didn't have the math skills or the intelligence after way too much
> > inbreeding.
>
>First: that contention is simply insulting.
>
>Second: Inbreeding typically only occurs when the benefit outweighs
>humanity's inherent incest taboo ... for instance, to keep political power
>'in the family', as it were, or when mating opportunities become limited;
>for instance, during times of famine. Until the Mayan collapse, the
>Mayans had a healthy and active gene pool. There was no pressing reason to
>inbreed. Second, even if you *do* assume that the Mayan leaders were
>inbred, Mayan dynastic structure did not affect the priestly caste -- the
>astronomers and mathematicians of the Mayans ... thus, no information
>would be 'lost' by inbreeding.
>
>In short: if you want to come into an academic discussion, bring academic
>thought. If you want to antagonize people who genuinely appreciate the
>culture you so carelessly denigrate, do exactly what you have just done.
>
>
>


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