Translation of Tzompantli

Fri Jan 14 22:59:23 UTC 2005

me da muchisimo gusto saber esto!!!

Dios quiere que tengamos la oportunidad de visitar Tlaxcallan una vez mas!!!

gracias por la inforación!

atenamente,

mario e. aguilar
www.mexicayotl.org

Raul macuil martinez wrote:

>  Afortunadamente en el caso de Tlaxcala es muy particular, porque la
> población tadavía tiene mucho arraigo a sus creencias y por supuesto a
> sus
> artesanías.
>  En Santa Ana Chiauhtempan todavía existen muchos productos elaborados
> con
> lana,  aunque no se escapa de la introducción de "nuevos" productos,
> pero la
> artesanía en lana, es el motor principal de la económia de Santa Ana.
>
>
>>
>> Hace 25 años yo y mi esposa estuvimos en Santa Ana Chautempan y
>> compramos muchas cosas preciosas de lana, y algodon
>> inlcuyendo sarapes, cobijas, sueteres y morales.
>>
>> Todavia hay mucha artesania alli?  O le ha pasado lo que paso en
>> Chiconcua, Estado de Mexico, adonde las atresanias  tradicionales de
>> tela se han reemplazado con t-shirts de fayuca de Guess, Budweisser,
>> Levis, etc; discos CD pirata, etc?
>>
>>
>>
>> Raul macuil martinez wrote:
>>
>>> Saludos...
>>>
>>>  Yo soy de Tlaxcala y efectivamente mucha gente que lleva por último
>>> apellido el de Tzompantzi, principalmente el municipio que se llama
>>> Santa
>>> Ana Chiauhtempan y en el poblado llamado Contla de Juan Cuamatzi.
>>> Pero mi
>>> pregunta es la siguiente:
>>>
>>> A que se refieren exactamente al decir : Wonder what these guys did
>>> for a living...  One man in Tlaxcala was running for a local
>>> municipal election. Would you vote for a Tzompantzin?.
>>>
>>> Podrían ser un poco más especifícos?.
>>>
>>>  Miec tlaçocamati.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Archaeology Institute <institute at CSUMB.EDU>
>>>> Reply-To: Nahua language and culture discussion
>>>> <NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
>>>> To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
>>>> Subject: Re: Translation of Tzompantli
>>>> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:46:50 -0800
>>>>
>>>> "John B. Carlson" <Tlaloc at umd.edu> writes:
>>>> >Ruben,
>>>> >
>>>> >Here's one important paper you should know:
>>>> >
>>>> >Miller, Virginia E.
>>>> >1999   The Skull Rack in Mesoamerica. In Mesoamerican Architecture
>>>> >as a Cultural Symbol (Jeff Karl Kowalski, Editor):pp. 340-360. Oxford
>>>> >University Press, New York.
>>>> >
>>>> >I will be interested in replies concerning the etymology as well as
>>>> >nuances of meaning associated with the Tzompantli. In Tlaxcala, there
>>>> >are a number of people with the last named Tzompantzi. I would be
>>>> >sure the original name was Tzompantzin. Wonder what these guys did
>>>> >for a living...  One man in Tlaxcala was running for a local
>>>> >municipal election. Would you vote for a Tzompantzin?
>>>> >
>>>> >John Carlson
>>>>
>>>> Dear John,
>>>>
>>>>         Thank you for your prompt response...I was away at the Magical
>>>> Kingdom in Anaheim (aka: Disneyland) with my family and returned
>>>> just a
>>>> couple of days ago.  It has been some time since I last had contact
>>>> with
>>>> you (Aztec exhibit at the Denver Museum
>>>> of Natural History), but wanted to let you know that I currently
>>>> have a
>>>> manuscript under review regarding my recent archaeoastronomy  (solar
>>>> geometry) studies of the California missions.  At present, I have a
>>>> dozen
>>>> sites with confirmed solstice and
>>>> equinox orientations...with attendant illuminations of tabernacle
>>>> features
>>>> and the like.
>>>>
>>>>         As for the tzompantli article, that is currently under review
>>>> for
>>>> a volume on The Taking and Displaying of Human Trophies by
>>>> Amerindians, and
>>>> the article by Virginia Miller proved a great point of departure, but
>>>> unlike the Miller paper, my analysis
>>>> centers on a cosmological and iconographic analysis of the
>>>> architectural
>>>> feature in question.  In my paper, I draw on the legend of the Hero
>>>> Twins
>>>> as a basis for interpreting extant associations between tzompantli and
>>>> ballcourt features, and in
>>>> turn, on the cults of decapitation that co-occur with said features
>>>> that
>>>> first appear in Gulf lowland contexts...or that point of departure
>>>> attributed to such groups as the Quiche (the authors of the Popol
>>>> Vuh).
>>>> Beyond that, I await further
>>>> commentaries and reviews as to the paper, but Arthur Demarest (one of
>>>> the
>>>> conference paper reviewers) was particularly interested in my results
>>>> and
>>>> interpretations...so I am hoping for the best as per the current
>>>> reviews.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ruben G. Mendoza, Ph.D., Director
>>>> Institute for Archaeological Science, Technology and Visualization
>>>> Social and Behavioral Sciences
>>>> California State University Monterey Bay
>>>> 100 Campus Center
>>>> Seaside, California 93955-8001
>>>>
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