tepi
Frances Karttunen
karttu at NANTUCKET.NET
Tue May 17 01:46:49 UTC 2005
I think the name Delia was inquiring about is A:cama:pi:chtli.
Ma:pi:ch-tli means 'fist.' A:ca-tl is reed. Rather than representing
water, the water glyph emerging from a fist would be a phonetic hint
that the name in question begins with the vowel/syllable a:.
On May 12, 2005, at 7:18 PM, campbel at INDIANA.EDU wrote:
> "tepiltzin" (note the -tzin) falls apart in different way from
> "tepi" (which
> doesn't fall apart at all). "tepi" is a morpheme, so it has no
> sub-parts, no
> constituents. On the occe maitl, "tepiltzin":
>
> te pil(li) tzin
> someone's child endearing diminutive suffix
>
> With regard to your "a(l(t))-mapitchtli", I doubt that "a:(tl)"
> combines with
> the rest of it in its rarer "al-" form, so it would probably show up
> as "a-".
> In the most common Nahuatl spelling the /ch/ phoneme is spelled "ch"
> (although
> the unitary sound of /ch/ *does* contain a kind of "t"). With the
> leading
> element "cem-", Molina gives both "cemmapichtli" and "cemmapictli":
>
> cemmapichtli haze o haz de cosas menudas; manojo, o hace de cosas
> menudas
>
> cemmapictli <lo mesmo es que cemmapichtli>; pun~o o pun~ado assi
> de cosas
> largas; como de pajas o yeruas
>
> cem ma:(itl) pi:qui [patientive noun
> derivation]
> one, complete hand squeeze
>
> (The "ch" form is a variant which is seen frequently in patientive
> nouns.)
>
> Joe
>
>
> Quoting Delia Cosentino <dacosentino at EARTHLINK.NET>:
>
>> Thanks, and just a follow up: is this related to tepilzin at all, i.e.
>> suggesting descent or an offspring, or does it have totally separate
>> linguistic origins?
>> Also, how might people read the name glyph of the stylized stream of
>> water
>> grasped by a hand? Something like...(apologies in
>> advance)...Al(t)mapitchtli?
>>
>>
>
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