altepetl and sacred landscape
idiez at MAC.COM
idiez at MAC.COM
Sat May 28 22:57:25 UTC 2005
Compañeros,
Just a comment on the term "altepetl". Yes, a town needs water. But
curiously enough, when nahuas established settlements, they preferred
places like valleys, rinconadas, and ravines, where flooding often
occured. The mountain is not used to escape this.
"Altepetl" can only by understood within the context of sacred
landscape. The mountain is a container of life, like a womb, a breast,
a piece of fruit, or the primordial lake of Aztlán. Often it has caves
with springs, which represent, Chicomostoc, the mythic passage between
the primordial lake of creation and Colhuahcan, the settlements or
altepetl, established by ancient migrating groups of people. Aside from
proximity to a main sacred hill, the settlements tend to be located
near a spring or river, whose gushing represents birth (of ancestors
and new generations) and the birth canal.
A few days ago, there was a discussion of a gliph with a hand
clutching water. I didn´t say anything then, but this may be a good
time. In many sacred ravines a hand is painted on the side of the
cliff. The side of a ravine is reminiscent of the outer wall of a
gourd, which in turn represents the outer wall of the container of the
primordial lake, Aztlán. The ravine wall is especially attractive to
the indigenous mind if it has cracks where water drips out. The hand
was painted on the wall of the ravine, because during certain
ceremonies, the indigenous people would knock on the rock, to summon
their ancestors forth in the form of the new generations.
This information is taken from work done on Mesoamerican sacred
landscape by María Elena Bernal García and Angel Julián García
Zambrano at the Universidad Autónoma del Estado de Morelos.
John Sullivan, Ph.D.
Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
Unidad Académica de Idiomas
Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas
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On May 28, 2005, at 3:31 PM, ANTHONY APPLEYARD wrote:
> --- zorrah at ATT.NET wrote:
>> Maybe I didn’t understand the lesson in the “Chimalpahin” thread, but
>> can someone please clarify why "altepetl" does not follow the general
>> assimilation patterns as these other examples do:
>> General Assimilation Examples:
>> 1) na:huatl + tlahto:lli (word, language) = na:huallahto:lli
>> 'Nahuatl language'
>> 2) a:tl + tla:lli (earth) = a:tla:lli 'irrigated land'
>> 3) a:tl + tlapechtli (bed) = a:tlape:chtli 'slope, side of a gully'
>> Also, in examples 2 and 3, is it the presence of the long vowel “a:”
>> stem that is left after the -tl is dropped, only to be confronted
>> with a twin “absolutive suffix-looking tl-” (of course the tl- of
>> tla:lli or tlape:chtli is NOT absolutive)
>>
>> Looking at altepetl, is it the strong “a:” stem again, who this time
>> will accept a half-image or mirror-image of its former self?
>>
>> 4) a:tl (water) + tepe:tl (hill) = a:ltepe:tl (town, pueblo)
>> What is going on here?
>> citlalin xochime
>
> (4) A town needs water for irrigation and a hill to keep out of floods.
> Thus the components have equal status and the compound is a dvandva.
> The basic meaning is "it is water (and) it is a hill", "it is water and
> a hill", originally two words, and people gradually started letting
> them run together into one; and the sequence -tlt- became -lt-.
>
> (1) na:huatl + tlahto:lli is also a dvandva: "it is something
> clear-sounding (and) it is a language", became na:huallahto:lli ; the
> sequence -tltl- became -ll-.
>
> 2) a:tl + tla:lli (earth) = a:tla:lli 'irrigated land', as it is (a
> sort of) land, but it is not (a sort of) water: it is an ordinary
> compound, not a dvandva.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Citltlyani
>
> Some languages have next to no assimilation of adjacent sounds;
> some langages have enough assimilation to keep a shipload of Borg busy.
>
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