Fwd(2): Re: About the word "teotl" and Ometeotl

[Kay Read]

Sorry. . .I didn't hit "reply all."

Kay

On 12/6/06, Kay Read <kay.a.read at gmail.com> wrote:
> See what I just sent, but actually I think these forces cannot exist
> without the natural things of the normal world.  They have no "house"
> in which to live otherwise; and therefore, they are directly
> experienced both within one's own body and the corporeal, material
> bodies of  other natural things.  See:  Lopez Austin's Human Body
> (1988) for a great deal more on this topic.
>
> Again, be careful about universalizing  our own deep-seated and
> historically long cultural assumptions about reality to other
> cultures.
>
> Just more thoughts on this. . .
>
> Kay Read
> Dept. of Religious Studies
> DePaul University, Chicago
>
> On 12/6/06, Craig Berry <cberry at cine.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Michael Swanton wrote:
> >
> > > Does the distinction between natural and "supernatural" have a place in
> > > indigenous religion(s) of Mesoamerica? That is, were divine powers
> > > understood to be beyond the natural world or part of it?
> >
> > This is obviously getting into murky semantics, but I think it's clear
> > that mesoamerican religions, like essentially all human religions,
> > recognized a category of forces or entities which were outside or beyond
> > the normal, everyday experience of nature.  Even if (as is commonly the
> > case) these forces were understood as the roots or sources of the visible
> > natural world, they in themselves were not directly experienced (other
> > than in ecstatic states, however those might be achieved).
> >
> > --
> >    )   Craig Berry - http://www.cine.net/~cberry/
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