chicomexochitl and the deer

[Alfonso Lacadena]

I hope this helps you.

You might find interesting that there is a Maya 
supernatural being called Uuc Zip in Colonial 
Yucatec alphabetic sources, spelled as UUK-si-pu, 
Uuk Si'p (or Siip) in pre-Columbian hieroglyphic 
ones. While the exact meaning of zip/sip is still 
debated among scholars, uuc/uuk clearly means 
'seven'. The interesting thing is that this 
supernatural whose name start with 'seven' is 
depicted iconographically as a deer (you can find 
a depiction of this character on Dresden Codex 
page 13, lowest register, left, the name spelled 
in the hieroglyphic caption above the image).

For modern Maya people of Yucatan and Quintana 
Roo, the 'sips' are a kind of supernaturals or 
deities of hunting; they live in the forest and protect deers.

Alfonso


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>From: "Kelly McDonough" <mcdo0030 at umn.edu>
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>Pialli,
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>  In   Hernando Ruiz de Alarcón’s  “Tratado de las supersticiones y
>costumbres gentílicas que hoy viven entre los indios naturales de esta Nueva
>España,” the Spanish translation of the nahuatl “chicomexochitl”  tends to
>appear as “siete flores (el venado).”  Is this simply a calendrical
>association, or am I missing something here?  From my perhaps limited
>research of modern accounts of chicomexochitl, I have not heard of the deer
>association.  Any insight, suggestions would be much appreciated.
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>Kelly McDonough
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>--- Kelly McDonough <mcdo0030 at umn.edu> wrote:
> > ...  the Spanish translation of the nahuatl “chicomexochitl”
> > tends to appear as “siete flores (el venado).” Is this simply a
> > calendrical association, or am I missing something here?  ...
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>What is the context of these occurrences of "chicomexochitl" and "siete
>flores (el venado)."? Does it mean a type of deer which in Nauuatl was
>called "seven flowers" because of markings on its skin?
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>Citlalyani.
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