[Aztlan] Yaocihuatl

Michael McCafferty mmccaffe at indiana.edu
Fri Aug 7 19:30:38 UTC 2009


Where did that come from? Is there posting on aztlan that is not being 
posted on nahuat-l?



Quoting "John F. Schwaller" <schwallr at potsdam.edu>:

> Let's be a bit more careful.  We have the implied comparison (corollary)
> of two very different words:
> chi:hua - a verb stem meaning to make something (long -i-)
> cihua:tl - a noun stem meaning woman (long -a-)
> -Please note the difference in vowel length
>
> They are very different words, they just happen to have some of the same
> letters.  But to use an English example, "parts" and "traps" are not at
> all the same word.
>
> yaocihuatl is very different from yaochihua
>
>
>
> Lynda Manning-Schwartz wrote:
>> According to J. Richard Andrews' book, Introduction to Classical Nahuatl,
>> the following translations may apply (colon indicates long vowel):
>>
>> (stuff deleted)
>> YA:O:-TL is "enemy" often embedded, as for example, TE:-(YA:O:-CHI:HUA >
>> YA:O:-CHI:UH) "to wage (human) war", where
>> CHI:HUA > CHI:UH with prefix TE:- is "to beget someone or to engender
>> someone" or with prefix TLA- is "to make something" and with both prefixes
>> TE:-TLA-CHI:HU-IA is "to do something to someone, to bewitch someone"
>> CIHUA:-TL is "woman"; as a modifier, it comes before the noun modified; for
>> example,
>> CIHUA:-MAZA:-TL is "female deer, doe"
>>
>> So YA:O:-CIHUA:-TL would imply a direct translation of "War Woman" with
>> perhaps the implied CHI:HUA:-TL corollary "person who makes (human) war or
>> causes war". In a goddess, this trait might very well be related to an
>> implied ability to create discord in humans.
>>
>>
>
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