mexicah tiahui?

Michael McCafferty mmccaffe at indiana.edu
Wed Jul 22 15:25:07 UTC 2009


I don't think you understood my point, John.

By "grammar" I didn't mean "grammar book," I meant "grammar".

Saludos,

Michael




Quoting "John Sullivan, Ph.D." <idiez at me.com>:

> Michael and listeros,
> 	Then perhaps someone can recommend a good recently written (within
> the last, say, 50 years) grammar of any variant of Nahuatl written by
>  a native speaker.
> John
>
> John Sullivan, Ph.D.
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>
> On Jul 21, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Michael McCafferty wrote:
>
>> Michael:
>>
>> I meant to add that my viewpoint on the matter of yahui, and grammar  in
>> general, is that all native-speaker grammars are equally good.
>>
>>
>> All best,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Michael Swanton <mwswanton at yahoo.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrews
>>>> states: "There exist dialectal variants for the present indicative  VNCs
>>>> with plural-number subjects built on the stem (ya-hui) instead of
>>>> (hui)?These
>>>> are not, however, considered good usage" (p. 98).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Almost all
>>>> dialects of Nahuatl use a non-suppletive stem of a shape like
>>>> yahui in the
>>>> present (Una Canger has written on this). Such a stem also appears  in
>>>> colonial
>>>> writings. It is ?classical? Nahuatl that is exceptional and probably
>>>> innovative,
>>>> while the ?modern dialects? may very well turn out to be more
>>>> conservative.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we
>>>> need to be careful in using classical Nahuatl as the baseline for
>>>> evaluating
>>>> good or bad usage or grammar in other varieties of Nahuatl that have
>>>> only been
>>>> documented more recently.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> \
>>>
>>> Michael:
>>>
>>> Talk to Andrews; don't talk to me. I don't speak for him. In this  case,
>>> what I tried to do was let you know what I recalled concerning *his*
>>> point of view from reading his second book on grammar.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
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