question on Spanish/Nahuatl "language"
Kier Salmon
k_salmon at ipinc.net
Tue May 5 17:24:55 UTC 2009
No, but I was surprised to find how many intrusions of Nahuatl into
Spanish existed... and I grew up in Mexico fully english/spanish
bilingual. It wasn't until I studied Nahuatl with John Sullivan last
summer that I found out just how many of them there were. It was
quite an education for somebody who thought she was very conversant
with spanish/castillian.
But then, those of us who went through the public school system in
Mexico have a number of ... *interesting*... conceptions about Mexico
and her history and amalgamation.
On May 5, 2009, at 10:14 AM, John F. Schwaller wrote:
> If I remember correctly, and Joe Campbell can remind me, Spanish
> pidgins are generally known as "ladino." One of the most famous is
> the Ladino used by Sephardic Jews who fled the Iberian Peninsula
> following the 1492 expulsion.
>
> In various documents from the 17th and 18th centuries there are
> increasing intrusions of Spanish words into Nahuatl. Examples can
> be found in my guide to Nahuatl manuscripts in US repositories.
> Lockhart does trace the three periods of language deformation, based
> on work he and Frances Karttunen did. But as to the creation of a
> real amalgam of Spanish and Nahuatl, I'm not aware of any.
>
>
>
> Jesse Lovegren wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sharon
>>
>> If you haven't already done this, you might be interested in
>> reading in Pidgin & Creole linguistics and in language contact.
>> English and French-based creoles sprung up frequently through
>> colonial-era contact, but Spanish-based creoles are rare. In the
>> case of Spanish, the situation is more like a koiné, where
>> proficient bilinguals are the ones initially introducing changes,
>> and the new variety is formed gradually. As for Nahuatl/Spanish, I
>> am not familiar with literature on present-day contact between
>> these two, but you will find a discussion of how Nahuatl changed
>> under influence from Spanish in Lockhart's "The Nahuas after
>> Conquest"
>>
>
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