dancing
Michael McCafferty
mmccaffe at indiana.edu
Sun Nov 22 01:59:35 UTC 2009
Quoting Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>:
>> DANCE
>> I have found IHTOTILIZTLI, MIHTOHTLI and NETOTILIZTLI. What are the
>> sources for the last two? why starting with M? is that the reflexive
>> version? and why does the last one start with NE? Which one is
>> grammatically correct?
>
> Netotiliztli is the correct form for the deverbal noun meaning
> "dancing," i.e., "the act of dancing". (-)ne- is an "impersonal"
> reflexive pronoun used when forming "impersonal" forms such as
> -liztli "nounings" and non-active impersonal forms such as necaco
> 'people hear themselves', nezahualo 'there is fasting" (i.e., people
> are fasting themselves), onequetzaloc 'people stood up'.
I was troubled by the first line of my response all day today, or at
least occasionally. The initial i- of ihtohtia shouldn't assimilate.
So, when I got home tonight I checked Molina and found, indeed,
'neihtohtiliztli'.
Sorry for the "interference".
Michael
>
> I don't know about "IHTOTILIZTLI". It sounds strange and
> ungrammatical. Seems to be missing the front end.
>
> However, "MIHTOHTLI" sounds o.k. for a noun meaning 'a dance' or 'the
> dance' premised on the personal reflexive pronoun (-)mo-.
>
>
>>
>> DANCER
>> I found MIHTOTIANI, MIHTOTIHQUI and MOHTOTIHQUI. Why not something
>> without the M? again because of its reflexive nature? Why not
>> IHTOTIANI?
>
> All of these sound fine, and you have answered your own question, I
> would say.
>
> Best,
>
> Michael
>
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