Nahuatl Digest, Vol 179, Issue 1

[Michael McCafferty]

Quoting vazquezdiaz at aol.com:

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> Please help me out with the meaning of the word  TLALCOSAHUA
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Sounds like 'earth-ferret-haver'

tla:l-co:zah-huah

someone who has/owns an 'earth-ferret'...whatever that is. :-)

Michael


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>   1. matlalin - blue, green, blue-green? (Molly Bassett)
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> Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 14:01:04 -0400
> From: Molly Bassett <mbassett at gsu.edu>
> Subject: [Nahuat-l] matlalin - blue, green, blue-green?
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> Hi, all.
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> I'm working on a piece dealing with the significance of colors in
> precontact Central Mexican religious contexts, and I have a question
> about the meaning of ma:tla:lin.
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> Frances Karttunen follows Molina in defining matlalin as ?the color
> dark green?:  ?This is attested in Z in matlalzahuatl (literally
> ?green pox?) and possibly in Matlalpan, although the sense of the
> latter would be obcure from this gloss, which appears to have
> something to do with lowness of sature.  Conceivably it is derived
> instead from tlalpan ?on the ground'" (139).
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> But Dibble & Anderson translate matlalin as ?blue? in the Florentine,
> which notes that "its name comes from nowhere.  It is the blossom of
> an herb, a blossom.  This matlalin is blue and a little herb-green.
> It is very sound, firm, good, of good appearance, fresh green.  It is
> fresh green, very resh green. . . . / acan quizqui in itoca, xihuitl
> ixochyo, xochitl: inin matlali texotic, ihuan achi quiltic, cenca
> ixtlapalhui, ixchicactic, cualli, cualnezqui, celic, celic,
> celpatic. . . ." (11: 240).
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> The Badianus Ms. cites matlalxochitl (presumably the xochitl referred
> to in the Florentine?) as an element in a treatment for "heat" in the
> eyes (pl. 14, p. 218).  The footnote for matlalxochitl glosses the
> term as "blue flower" identifies the plant as "the dayflower,
> Commelina, of which a number of species are found on the Mexican
> plateau.  A native variant Nahuatl name for it is matlaliztic.
> Hern?ndez refers to several varieties of matlalxochitl (pp. 383-4),
> but none of the illustrations resembles Commelina; thus the name must
> have been applied to several flowers of blue color" (219-20).
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> So, two of these three sources relate matlalin to blue; I haven't
> followed up on Hern?ndez yet.  Are there other places I should look
> for more information on matlalin as blue or green?  I realize that
> blue-green functioned as a range or spectrum in precontact
> Mesoamerica, but the discrepancy among these sources has piqued my
> curiosity.
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> Thanks,
> Molly
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> Molly H. Bassett
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> Department of Religious Studies
> Georgia State University
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