Translation Assistance for Nahua-inspired Lullaby

[John Sullivan]

In Modern Huastecan Nahuatl, cedar is tiocuahuitl (teo-tl, cuahuitl).
John

On Oct 12, 2010, at 12:10 AM, Campbell, R. Joe wrote:

> Cindy,
> 
>   Michael has already offered the answer with his "pochotl" and "ahuehuetl"
> (note lack of vowel length).
> 
>   Dibble and Anderson did not include "juniper" as a translation for 
> "ahuehuetl" anywhere in the Florentine Codex, but "pochotl" and 
> "ahuehuetl" have a high rate of co-occurrence, mainly due to their 
> partnership in a "difrasismo", with the meaning of 'refuge'.
> 
>   Louise C. Schoenhaus, in her _A Spanish-English Glossary of Mexican 
> Flora and Fauna_ (published by the Summer Institute of Linguistics), 
> says:
> 
>   juniper (Juniperus spp., e.g., J. monticola)  cedro blanco, cedro,
>   cipre's, enhebro, junipero, ta'scate, tlaxcal (page 185)
> 
> ...so since "ahuehuetl" is a cypress (as Michael said), the circle is 
> closed... or is it a triangle?
> 
> Iztayomeh,
> 
> Joe
> 
> Quoting Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>:
> 
>> Quoting Cindy Williams Gutierrez <cindy at grito-poetry.com>:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Nahuatl Enthusiasts:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can someone kindly help with a translation of the following lines (or
>>> point me to a resource for translation):
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *	"Sleep, small one"
>>> *	"Let me be the cottonwood, the juniper"
>> 
>> 
>> I'm a sucker, perhaps a buffalo fish, so I'll take the bait.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Xicochi, conetzin,
>> Xinechchihuacan in pochotl, in X..."
>> 
>> 
>> X means I don't have "juniper" in my Nahuatl vocabulary, or so I think.
>> I have it in Navajo, French, and Miami-Illinois, but not in Nahuatl.
>> 
>> Could I interest you in fir, pine, or cypress?
>> 
>> oyametl 'fir', ocotl 'pine', ahuehuetl 'cypress'
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Hopefully, someone else can supply the juniper.
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm working on a Nahua-inspired lullaby poem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you kindly,
>>> 
>>> Cindy WG
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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