The verb CEQUI in Karttunen's dictionary

SASAKI Mitsuya hawatari21centuries at
Mon Oct 31 01:12:09 UTC 2011

Piyali, Johntzine, Michaeltzine,

Thanks. You made me realize that I underestimated how difficult this 
verb was, and I didn't notice that it resembles IUCCI.

As you pointed out, the problem of this strange ending "-yaya" (or 
"ia:ya"?) remains even if we assume it's in the imperfect form.
I'm afraid that if "te" is the incorporated form of "tetl", this verb 
should have been "te-hcequi-..." without the "i", if this verb really 
has an epenthetic "i" and a saltillo.
In both cases, as John said, the valency and the ending are still 
problematic. It's also strange that this verb is used only infrequently 
in the text.


Mitsuya SASAKI
The Department of Linguistics, the University of Tokyo
ll116003 at

(2011/10/30 23:43), John Sullivan wrote:
> Piyali Mitsuya,
> I’m sure the reason “ihcequi” is not in Fran’s dictionary is that the
> word does not appear in the corpus upon which her work is based. Joe
> Campbell and I are at the Notre Dame STLILLA conference right now and
> I’m sure that sometime today (when he wakes up) he’ll post the
> attestations of “ihcequi” found in his corpus. I would just like to say
> two things. First, “ihcequi,” which is both intransitive and transitive,
> suspiciously resembles “iucci,” “for s.t. to ripen or be cooked.” both
> in sound and meaning, although the morphology is probably different. 2.
> the form “teihcequiaya” is very strange. What is that “te-”? Are we
> really dealing with an applicative form of “ihcequi” (ihcequia), having
> now two objects and conjugated in the imperfect“? The resulting
> “teihcequiaya” meaning “to toast it for someone”? Or are we dealing with
> the peripheral imperative suffix “yaya”? But then the verb would only be
> intransitive or transitive (with one object), so what would the “te-”
> refer to?
> John
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> On Oct 30, 2011, at 4:58 AM, SASAKI Mitsuya wrote:
>> Nocnihuane,
>> Some of you might have noticed that the verb form CEQU(I) "to toast
>> something" in Karttunen's Analytical Dictionary doesn't have
>> corresponding entries in Molina's and Siméon's dictionaries.
>> In fact, Molina and Siméon both have ICEQUI "to toast maize etc.",
>> probably "i" being an epenthetic vowel preceding a saltillo (IHCEQUI).
>> Andrews' Introduction (p. 70 in the rev. ed.) and Wimmer's Online
>> Nahuatl dictionary correctly contain IHCEQUI.
>> Corresponding to this, you can find "teycequjaia" and "quiceqia" in
>> the Florentine Codex (Book 3, Ch. 11, p. 31 in Anderson & Dibble
>> ver.), both with the meaning "to toast (maize)". The "y" in
>> "teycequjaia" can properly predicted by assuming the form IHCEQUI.
>> I'm not sure if it's Karttunen's error (I've yet to check her source,
>> Brewer&Brewer's Tetelcingo Nahuatl dictionary), but I thought I'd post
>> anyway in case someone gets in trouble while reading Nahuatl texts,
>> for Karttunen's dictionary doesn't contain IHCEQUI.
>> Thanks,
>> Mitsuya SASAKI
>> The Department of Linguistics, the University of Tokyo
>> ll116003 at <mailto:ll116003 at>
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