tlanicuilulco, guerrero

Michael McCafferty mmccaffe at indiana.edu
Sun Oct 9 19:47:42 UTC 2011


Nice, John.

I gave the word about two seconds of my time and didn't go the further 
step to ihcuilolli, which is why, as I was walking around later 
yesterday afternoon,I suddenly said to myself, "So, with ihcuilolo, how 
do you account for that final -l- in tlanicuilulco, once -lo is lopped 
off ihcuilolo to accept the locative suffix? Doh!--Ihcuilolli."


As for the tlan- part, homophony is curious phenomenon: tlan(i) 
'downwards' and tlan(tli) 'tooth'. This is of course at the heart of 
the fun of Nahuatl.

In light of tlanicahua, tlanihuah, etc., one (meaning nehhuaton) might 
accept tlanihcuiloa with a 'tlani' meaning. But I'm interested in the 
'tooth' analysis.
It makes sense.


Michael



Quoting John Sullivan/IDIEZ <idiez at me.com>:

> Piyali notequixpoyohuan,
> 	This word is made up of the noun tlanihcuilolli and the
> locative/place-name-maker -co (place of).
> Now let?s look at tlanihcuilolli. This is a verbal noun that comes
> from the transitive verb tlanihcuiloa. And tlanihcuiloa comes from
> tlantli, ?tooth? and ihcuiloa, ?to write, inscribe or paint s.t.? And
> ihcuiloa ultimately comes from the idea of scratching/engraving, and
> that may be important here. Anyway, tlantl is the object of ihcuiloa,
> so tlanihcuiloa mean to engrave, write, inscribe, paint a tooth. When
> we turn this into a passive action noun, tlantli, originally the
> object of the verb, becomes the focus of the noun. So tlanihcuilolli
> is a engraved written, inscribed or painted tooth. Perhaps the
> scratching thing does have importance here, because we could be
> talking about a geographic formation within the context of sacred
> landscape, that looks like a tooth, perhaps a rock formation. So it
> would seem that tlanihcuilolco would mean, ?place of the engraved,
> written, inscribed or painted tooth.? Perhaps Juan has some local
> cultural or geographic information that could help to narrow this
> down.
> John
>
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> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Michael McCafferty wrote:
>
>> Quoting juan Vazquez <juanvazquezvaz at aol.com>:
>>
>>> I need help in finding out the meaning of TLANICUILULCO........
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>> Juan,
>>
>> This is a fun word, as it can take you in several directions. It
>> will be interesting to see what the term means.
>>
>> To me it seems to be composed of the following:
>>
>> tlan(i) 'downwards' + (i)hcuilu:lo: 'it is written, painted' + -co "place".
>>
>> That tlan-, of course, also looks like 'tooth'.
>>
>> Monequi nimitzilhuiz ahmo nicmati inezca inin altepetocaitl.
>>
>> Michael
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