tlanicuilulco, guerrero

[Michael McCafferty]

Yes, Fran, this was one of the other avenues that occurred to me 
yesterday but i tossed it. i guess i like throwing things.

As for tlan(i) prefixed, the terms i already supplied, John, such 
tlanicahua, tlanihuah, as well as tlanitlaza, and probably others i 
can't think of, attest to this prefixing of tlan(i).

Michael


Quoting John Sullivan/IDIEZ <idiez at me.com>:

> Fran,
> 	Tlanecuilolli, ?s.t. twisted or warped,? referring to the hooked
> mountain of Colhuahcan, also fits well within the context of sacred
> landscape.
> John
>
> On Oct 9, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Frances Karttunen wrote:
>
>> OR:
>>
>> Try analyzing it as tlanecuilolco.
>>
>> The transitive verb necuiloa is in Molina.
>>
>> Fran Karttunen
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2011, at 3:12 PM, John Sullivan/IDIEZ wrote:
>>
>>> Piyali notequixpoyohuan,
>>> 	This word is made up of the noun tlanihcuilolli and the
>>> locative/place-name-maker -co (place of).
>>> Now let?s look at tlanihcuilolli. This is a verbal noun that comes
>>> from the transitive verb tlanihcuiloa. And tlanihcuiloa comes from
>>> tlantli, ?tooth? and ihcuiloa, ?to write, inscribe or paint s.t.?
>>> And ihcuiloa ultimately comes from the idea of
>>> scratching/engraving, and that may be important here. Anyway,
>>> tlantl is the object of ihcuiloa, so tlanihcuiloa mean to engrave,
>>> write, inscribe, paint a tooth. When we turn this into a passive
>>> action noun, tlantli, originally the object of the verb, becomes
>>> the focus of the noun. So tlanihcuilolli is a engraved written,
>>> inscribed or painted tooth. Perhaps the scratching thing does have
>>> importance here, because we could be talking about a geographic
>>> formation within the context of sacred landscape, that looks like a
>>> tooth, perhaps a rock formation. So it would seem that
>>> tlanihcuilolco would mean, ?place of the engraved, written,
>>> inscribed or painted tooth.? Perhaps Juan has some local cultural
>>> or geographic information that could help to narrow this down.
>>> John
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Michael McCafferty wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quoting juan Vazquez <juanvazquezvaz at aol.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> I need help in finding out the meaning of TLANICUILULCO........
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>>>> Juan,
>>>>
>>>> This is a fun word, as it can take you in several directions. It
>>>> will be interesting to see what the term means.
>>>>
>>>> To me it seems to be composed of the following:
>>>>
>>>> tlan(i) 'downwards' + (i)hcuilu:lo: 'it is written, painted' + -co
>>>> "place".
>>>>
>>>> That tlan-, of course, also looks like 'tooth'.
>>>>
>>>> Monequi nimitzilhuiz ahmo nicmati inezca inin altepetocaitl.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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