Nahuatl Digest, Vol 304, Issue 3
Jacinto Acatecatl
tekuani at hotmail.es
Thu Jul 11 21:55:51 UTC 2013
Felicidades Paloma Rodríguez, es bueno saber que haya mas investigadores que le dediquen a un lengua indígena, me pongo a tus ordenes en lo poco que te pueda ayudar, por mi parte no soy linguista ni antropologo, mi formación es en sociología pero eh dado clases de nahúatl y soy Nahuablante de la Zona centro del Estado de Veracruz.
Excelente día.
Jacinto Acatecatl N.
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> 1. Itzcatlan (Baert Georges)
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> Subject: [Nahuat-l] Itzcatlan
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> Itzcatlan
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> The stem itz or itzco:a:, used in compositions refers to a obsidian
> decoration motif.
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> This is a stem variant of the verb itta, to see.
>
> The relation with obsidian is probably one can see himself in a piece of
> obsidian.
>
> Itzcac, short form of itzcactli, sandals with obsidian motifs.
>
> They were carried by certain Gods like Tezcatlipoca or Chiucna:hui
> Itzcuintli (Sah.IX, cap.17).
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> Or certain palaces, itzco:a:calli.
>
> Or certain coats, itzco:a:yoh.
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> The motif itself is called, tlaitzco:a:ihcuilo:lli.
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> See SGAII, 435, Seler says that this motifs are obsidian serpents, itzcoatl,
> a mythical figure.
>
> Itztli, is a fragment of obsidian.
>
> Itzla:n, is a possible place, with the locative -tla:n.
>
> It's a place in the province of Cuauhua:huac (Cuernacaca), and could also be
> seen as a place where obsidian was found.
>
> Itz- in compositions doesn't mean de facto cold.
>
> Itz-coatl is a sort of fish.
>
> Itz-cuintli, dog, could also mean brutality or cruelty
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> The form itz-catlan is very difficult to explain.
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> Lahun Ik 62
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> Baert Georges
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> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:34:23 -0300
> From: Paloma Rodríguez <pacoatlicue at hotmail.com>
> To: "nahuatl at lists.famsi.org" <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
> Subject: [Nahuat-l] about directional particles in Nahuatl
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> Hello,
> My name is Paloma Rodríguez. I'm a linguist and I'm about to start my second year of a second Master's degree in Guadalajara Mexico. I've been working with Nahuatl for 4 years, since my first Master.
> For my thesis I plan to analyse directional particles in Nahuatl to try to understand their different functions and meanings. I've already read: Olmos, Carochi, Lockhart, Launey and Andrews. And it would help me a lot if you could send me or suggest me some bibliography related to this topic.
> Besides, I'm planning to do a PhD in Nahuatl linguistics in USA. I wonder if you could tell me about the universities where there are Nahuatl researchers in linguistics or other fields.
> I thank you in advance for your attention.
> Regards,
> Paloma Rodríguez
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