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[Michael McCafferty]

In fact, there are actually a few loan words in Algonquian from 
Iroquoian, such as Munsee /káanoos/ 'kerosene' < Seneca /tka:no's/ 'oil 
on water'.  Unami has /ya:kwého/ (or -ha) 'mammoth?' < Seneca 'Great 
Bear, Naked Bear' (supposedly it means 'it's body is high'). There 
seems to be a Mohawk loan in Cuoq's Algonquin: <sai> 'bean'). The point 
was to suggest to John Sullivan that it be a better use of one's time 
to look for Spanish borrowings into Huastecan Nahuatl than to look for 
Native borrowings.

Michael

Quoting Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>:

>
> Bonjour, Jacques,
>
> I know John's ideas on borrowings but was unaware of your Michaud's
> and Bob's piece. Thank you. I will read it. When I said "not much"
> borrowing between Siouan and Algonquian, I didn't mean "none".
>
> Best,
>
> Michael
>
>
> Quoting Guillaume Jacques <rgyalrongskad at gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear Michael,
>>
>>
>>> Siouan languages and Algonquian languages have also interfaced over the
>>> last 1000 years or so in the Midwest, but again there hasn't been much
>>> borrowing back and forth. Curiously, though, the Miami-Illinois term for
>>> the number "eight," /palaani/, is from a Siouan language. Go figure.
>>>
>>
>> I think that it is incorrect to say that there has not been much borrowing
>> between Algonquian and Siouan languages. In general (apart from the
>> borrowing of the numeral "eight" from Tutelo to Miami-Illinois you
>> mention), the direction of borrowing is from Algonquian to Siouan.
>> Borrowings are not always easily recognizable due to a series of sound
>> changes in Siouan (they include words such as "bow", "squash", "bear" etc).
>> On this topic, see:
>>
>> Koontz, John E. 1986. Old loanwords in Mississippi Valley Siouan:
>> archaeological implications. Paper presented at the 44th Annual
>> PlainsConference, Denver, Colorado.
>> Michaud, Alexis, Jacques, Guillaume & Rankin, Robert. 2012. Historical
>> transfer of nasality between consonantal onset and vowel: from C to V or
>> from V to C? *Diachronica* 29.2: 201?230.
>>
>> Guillaume
>>
>> --
>> Guillaume Jacques
>> CNRS (CRLAO) - INALCO
>> http://cnrs.academia.edu/GuillaumeJacques
>> http://himalco.hypotheses.org/
>> http://panchr.hypotheses.org/
>>
>
>
>
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