Phones query with word

Nikola Paillereau nikola.paillereau at mac.com
Tue Apr 25 13:49:11 UTC 2017


Great news,
thanks so much, Yvan.

Cheers,
Nikola

Nikola Paillereau, Ph.D. 
Associate member of the Laboratory of Phonetics and Phonology - UMR 7018 
Sorbonne Nouvelle University - Paris 3
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> Le 25 avr. 2017 à 13:13, Yvan Rose <yvan.rose at gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> Hi Naomi, and Nikola,
> Just to add to the good news: the new version of Phon also incorporates the feature you requested for overlapping results:
> 
> <Screen Shot 2017-04-25 at 8.40.28 AM.png>
>  
> Thank you for your useful feedback,
> Yvan 
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Greg Hedlund <greg.hedlund at gmail.com <mailto:greg.hedlund at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Naomi,
>> 
>> A beta of Phon 2.2 is now available at https://github.com/phon-ca/phon/releases <https://github.com/phon-ca/phon/releases> which can do the operation you requested.  To add the orthographic word to your query results, setup the 'Word Filter' portion of your query form as shown below:
>> 
>> <pjfkchcfifeafijc.png>
>> 
>> Word Filter -> Aligned Word -> Tier name = Orthography, Expression Type = Regex, Expression = .*
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> -Greg
>> 
>> On 4/24/2017 9:23 AM, Naomi Yamaguchi wrote:
>>> HI Greg, 
>>> thank you !
>>> 
>>> Naomi YAMAGUCHI
>>> MCF, Responsable de la Licence de Sciences du Langage
>>> ILPGA & Laboratoire de Phonétique et Phonologie (UMR 7018)
>>> Université Sorbonne Nouvelle - Paris 3
>>> 19 rue des Bernardins, 75005 Paris - Bureau 13
>>> Tél. : 01 44 32 05 77
>>> http://www.univ-paris3.fr/mme-yamaguchi-naomi-348714.kjsp <http://www.univ-paris3.fr/mme-yamaguchi-naomi-348714.kjsp>
>>> http://lpp.in2p3.fr/Yamaguchi-Naomi-606 <http://lpp.in2p3.fr/Yamaguchi-Naomi-606>
>>>> Le 24 avr. 2017 à 13:46, Greg Hedlund <greg.hedlund at gmail.com <mailto:greg.hedlund at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Naomi,
>>>> 
>>>> There is no direct way to do what you are asking.  I will look into it and see what I can provide as a solution a little later.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> -Greg
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/24/2017 9:14 AM, Yvan Rose wrote:
>>>>> Hi again Naomi,
>>>>> At the query level, did you search by word? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Note: this option is not the default one in Phon 2.1.8, so it needs to be turned on; but we changed this for 2.2, in which this option is now the default.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yvan 
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Pièce jointe.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Naomi Yamaguchi <naomi.yamaguchi at univ-paris3.fr <mailto:naomi.yamaguchi at univ-paris3.fr>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Yvan,
>>>>>> Yes I’ve tried that but each record can be composed of a whole sentence with many words…
>>>>>> So we don’t have the specific word but the whole utterance for each consonant. I want one word per result. (By the way, each word has been transcribed as a group).
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Naomi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Naomi YAMAGUCHI
>>>>>> MCF, Responsable de la Licence de Sciences du Langage
>>>>>> ILPGA & Laboratoire de Phonétique et Phonologie (UMR 7018)
>>>>>> Université Sorbonne Nouvelle - Paris 3
>>>>>> 19 rue des Bernardins, 75005 Paris - Bureau 13
>>>>>> Tél. : 01 44 32 05 77
>>>>>> http://www.univ-paris3.fr/mme-yamaguchi-naomi-348714.kjsp <http://www.univ-paris3.fr/mme-yamaguchi-naomi-348714.kjsp>
>>>>>> http://lpp.in2p3.fr/Yamaguchi-Naomi-606 <http://lpp.in2p3.fr/Yamaguchi-Naomi-606>
>>>>>>> Le 24 avr. 2017 à 13:39, Yvan Rose <yvan.rose at gmail.com <mailto:yvan.rose at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Naomi,
>>>>>>> A way to do this is by adding the relevant tiers from your record data (here, I assume Orthography plus maybe your IPA tiers) as part of a report section within your data report. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I attach an example report design which you can try for starters. Please let me know if this helps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Yvan 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <Screen Shot 2017-04-24 at 9.06.27 AM.png>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2017, at 7:01 AM, Naomi Yamaguchi <naomi.yamaguchi at univ-paris3.fr <mailto:naomi.yamaguchi at univ-paris3.fr>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dear all, 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like to do the following Phones query : to look for all the consonants in IPA Target and their realizations in IPA Actual.
>>>>>>>> I can do that easily, but I would like to export also the associated word (Orthography tier) because I want to exclude some words afterwards (grammatical words).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have tried the Word Match query, but it exports only the word. I don’t have one result per consonant (in cases where the words has more than 1 consonant).
>>>>>>>> How can I do that in Phon ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your help,
>>>>>>>> Naomi
>>>>>>> 
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