SEALTEACH query: clicks in Southeast Asia (fwd)

[Yuphaphann Hoonchamlong]

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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 07:58:14 -0600
From: John Grima <MKJGRIMA at ihc.com>
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Subject: Re: SEALTEACH query: clicks in Southeast Asia (fwd)

David,
I am fairly confident that I have heard dental and palatal clicks used
in Thai.  Quick, light dental ones as part of an expression of impending
short temper or distaste.  Bigger, louder palatal clicks as part of the
repertoire of story tellers and dramatic talkers from lower class
backgrounds.  Maybe also the latter as an expression of frustration.
... I think I'm going to be surprised if you find any language in which
these highly available verbal gestures are not occasionally part of
expression.  ... I'm fairly confident, also, that I have heard people
gathered around an infant make comparable sounds, dental and bilabial
clicks, as a way of interacting verbally with the child.  In Thailand.
Good luck.
John Grima
6 yrs residence in Thailand; 30 years speaking the language (but not a
lot in the last 15); PhD, Thai linguistics, 1978.

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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 00:03:05 +0200
From: David Gil <gil at eva.mpg.de>
To: Sealang <sealang-l at nectec.or.th>
Subject: query: clicks in Southeast Asia

In English, there is a sound, written either "tsk-tsk" or "tut-tut",
which is a dental click, symbolized as "|".  Its use is as an
exclamation, expressing disapproval, impatience, mockery, or, more
generally, what might be characterized as "negative affect".

The purpose of this query is to explore the cross-linguistic
distribution of click sounds, such as "|", in Southeast Asian
languages,
used to express various notions of negativity, or opposite positive
notions.

The English "tsk-tsk" occurs also in French, German and Japanese.
However, in Russian, similar negative affect may be expressed either
with "|" or with a lateral click "||".  Interestingly, in a contiguous
zone including Italian, Greek, Turkish, Hebrew, Arabic and Persian,
the
"tsk-tsk" sound is associated with a somewhat more grammaticalized
function: simple logical negation.  Thus, in response to a yes-no
question, a dental click is an appropriate answer, meaning, simply,
"no".  In contrast, in many languages in other parts of the world,
there
seem to exist no corresponding usages of click sounds, though there
may
be other usages.  In particular, in some languages of Southeast Asia
and
Oceania, including Kammu, Minangkabau, Maybrat and Paamese, the "tsk
tsk" sound is used to express positive, rather than negative affect.

My questions are the following:

(1) In the language(s) you are familiar with, does there exist a click
sound with a meaning broadly associated with logical negation (as in
Hebrew), negative affect (as in English), or positive affect (as in
Kammu)?

[Please note:  I am also particularly eager to collect *negative*
data,
ie. claims (provided they are solid and robust) to the effect that a
certain language does NOT have any click sounds associated with such
functions.]

If your answer to (1) is yes, then ...

(2) What are the phonetic properties of the click sound?  (Is it
dental
like English "tsk-tsk", lateral as in Russian, etc.?)

(3)  How is the click sound used?  What does it express?

Any other related comments, ideas, and so forth, would also be greatly
appreciated.

**********

Appendix:
Here are some references for clicks in non-click languages:

[1]  Darwin, Charles (1872) "The Expression of the Emotions in Man and
Animals", D. Appleton and Company, New York.

(Available online at
http://paradigm.soci.brocku.ca/~lward/Darwin/darwin00.html,  chapter
11
mentions "clucks" associated with gestures for "no")

[2]  Morris, Desmond, Peter Collett, Peter marsh and Marie
O'shaughnessy
(1979) "Gestures", Stein and Day, New York.

(Maps the geographical distribution, within Europe, of 20 different
gestures, one of which, the "Head Toss", also involves the dental
click.)

[3] LINGUIST List 3.1012, Wed 23 Dec 1992, Sum: Yes/No Gestures

(Available online at http://linguist.emich.edu/issues/3/3-1012.html,
mentions the "tsk tsk" sound with the meaning of negation.)

I'd also be grateful for any additional references on this topic.


--
David Gil

Department of Linguistics
Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
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Email: gil at eva.mpg.de
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