stress

Tatyana Buzina tbuzina at YANDEX.RU
Sat Feb 5 03:47:39 UTC 2005


Hello,

>1)I believe "dve osnovnyh zadachi" shouldn't be considered wrong (after all, it
>is OK to say "dva osnovnyh zadaniya") - however, I personally would say ""dve
>osnovnye zadachi."

"Dve osnovnye zadachi" is the way it's ideally should be said. Feminine should take Nominative case with numerals from 1 to 4 (osnovnye) while masculine and neuter take Genitive (osnovnykh). However, the norm's getting rather shaky now (as with many other grammar points as well both in Russian and English, I believe) and you can hear and, I think, even see in print both versions, really.
Regards,
Tatyana

>
>2)in both cases, the stress in "gory" is on the last syllable (gory')
>
>Also, "dve vysokyh gory" just doesn't sound right (it sounds even more strange
>to me than "dve osnovnyh zadachi"). Perhaps it has to do with the feminine
>versus masculine? (after all, "dva veselyh gusia" is definitely right!)
>
>All the best,
>Marina Levitina
>
>
>Quoting John Dingley <jdingley at YORKU.CA>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Would some native-speakers of Russian care to give me the benefit of
>> their views on this old chestnut?
>>
>> 1. dve osnovnye zadachi ~ dve osnovnyx zadachi
>> As far as I know, dve osnovnye zadachi is much more common today?
>> However, dve osnovnyx zadachi would not be considered wrong, but
>> maybe old-fashioned?
>>
>> 2. dve vysokie gory ~ dve vysokix gory
>> If one says dve vysokix gory, I assume the stress on gory is always
>> ending stress, i.e. gory'.
>> But if one says dve vysokie gory, where now is the stress on gory?
>> Is it ending stress, i.e. gory' or stem stress, i.e. go'ry?
>>
>> John Dingley
>>
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