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Alina Israeli
aisrael at AMERICAN.EDU
Sat Jun 3 14:49:12 UTC 2006
>But, have any of you good folks out there ever heard of a surname
>"IL'D"?
No, but Google found an actor Sergej Il'd:
ëÂÂÈ àθ
ëÂÂÈ àθ ÄÍÚÂ. ÙËÎ¸Ï áýÒÚÛÈ, åÓÒÍý! (1945)
kino.br.by/man37772.html
> On the other hand, might
>I ask, how common as a SURNAME is "IL'IA," in one or another
>part of the former USSR?
Not very common but still there. Nothing beats Alexander and Vladimir.
>When I think of famous creative people like " EL' " Lisitskii and
>" VIL " Lipatov, whose intialisms may be derived from less exotic
>names like Lazar' and Vladimir Il'ich Lenin,
Those must be treated differently: El' is pseudonym, basically a
transctiption of the first letter of the name: L = El', while Vil' seems to
be a given name, like Magnit or Industrij.
Whether the name goes back to a Lenin's achromym may be a question, some
names were simply "reetymologized". It is said that Ninel' is Lenin
backwards, yet it is a legitimate French name Ninelle, so is Vladelain
which in Russian version BladiLen is viewed as Vladimir Lenin.
As for Il'd, it may as well be a shortened Turkic name Il'dar. Everybody
knows El'dar (Ryazanov). Well, Il'dar is his namesake, from a different
tribe or a dialect. It is Uzbek I think.
There is a TV duo of Berman and Zhindarev, well Zhindarev is Ildar.
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