[Bulk] Re: [SEELANGS] discourse words
colkitto
colkitto at ROGERS.COM
Fri Nov 30 03:43:50 UTC 2007
My previous posting doesnt seem to have got through, sorry
By asking that question ( отвечал, а не ответил?) I meant to suggest that
Putin could have been asked that as a follow up,
meaning "but you haven't really answered the question".
His reaction might have been interesting.
And been offered as an example of making aspect fun.
> The use of the imperfective here appears to be a case of what has often
> been called "konstatacija fakta" and is perhaps best understood by
> assigning two meanings to uzhe: 1) so quickly; 2) at some previous time.
> I don't mean literal translations of uzhe and perhaps there are better
> ones, but just a way of trying to characterize the ways that uzhe and
> aspect can be related to be used in two different kinds of situations that
> convey two different meanings. Consider the following examples:
> 1) Two students, working together on their Russian homework. The first
> one says, "Let's start with ex. 10." A ja ego uzhe sdelal, says the
> second. That is, having done the exercise is part of relevant time that
> began at some point in the past and continues to the present, with results
> relevant to the present moment. So, to try to make it visual, if the
> present is marked by an X, then |----------|X
> 2) A substitute teacher in a Russian class, says "Let's do exercise 10."
> A my ego uzhe delali, answer the students, meaning that this exercise was
> done at a previous time and therefore does not need to be done now. The
> doing of the exercise was an event completed in a period of time not
> relevant to the present. Again to try to make it visual, |---------|
> X
> By choosing the imperfective, Putin is saying that answering that
> question is already over and done with. Time to move on.
> At least, that is my reading of it.
> Pat Chaput
> Harvard University
>
>>> ВОПРОС: В моем вопросе речь шла о многополярности в самой России как
>>> таковой и о том, что касается отношения международного сообщества в
>>> отношении России, если она не соблюдает эти принципы: убийства
>>> журналистов, страхи, боязнь, отсутствие свободы, неправительственные
>>> организации.
>>>
>>> В.ПУТИН: Я два слова скажу. Там был другой какой-то вопрос, на этот я в
>>> принципе уже отвечал, когда говорил о составе российского парламента.
>>>
>>> Речь Путина в Мюнхене (2007)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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