Cyrillic encodings
Edward M Dumanis
dumanis at BUFFALO.EDU
Tue Apr 1 21:46:27 UTC 2008
Have you tried Mozila's Thunderbird?
Some view it the best e-mail agent, it is free and has no Outlook
problems.
I do not think that it is a good idea to send everything in UTF-8.
Our university e-mail that I use is ASCII-based.
So, if somebody sends a UTF-8 message, I cannot read it without
complicated processing.
Sincerely,
Edward Dumanis <dumanis at buffalo.edu>
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Philip Robinson wrote:
> Thanks for the good advice, David. Yes, UTF-8 is a good solution, though my
> university-supplied mail program stunningly lacks the ability to tweak the
> encoding (either inbound or outbound), so I should probably replace it. I
> think we are scheduled to move to Outlook soon, which would be an
> improvement.
>
> Firefox and other browsers provide the capability of changing the encoding,
> so I pop open SEELANGS postings in two places, hoping for the best, though
> still around a third of the Cyrillic text is garbled (undoubtedly due to the
> issue of the differently-encoded outbound postings). Hence my call for Latin
> transliteration, though I realize it's extra effort for everybody. I enjoy
> this list, so I don't want to miss anything!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Phil
>
> At 09:09 AM 4/1/2008, David Powelstock wrote:
>> Hi, Robert (and all),
>>
>> I'm not very familiar with email programs other than Outlook, which is what
>> I use, but there should be a separate setting (somewhere!) for the encoding
>> your program will use to *compose* emails. ('Automatic,' I think, must
>> refer to how your program *decodes* incoming messages.)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
>> [mailto:SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Robert Chandler
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:22 AM
>> To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Cyrillic encodings
>>
>> So are you saying I should always set 'Character Set' in my email programme
>> to 'UTF-8' rather than to 'Automatic'? This won't cause other problems?
>>
>> Best Wishes,
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Yes, and to the extend your computer savvy (or that of someone you
>> > know) allows, please try to set your keyboard and email programs to
>> > use UTF-8 ("8-bit Unicode"). This is the standard toward which
>> > everything is going, and so you'd be doing yourself (and everyone
>> > else!) a favor by moving toward it.
>> >
>> > Best wishes to all,
>> > David
>> >
>> > David Powelstock
>> > Asst. Prof. of Russian & East European Literatures Chair, Program in
>> > Russian & East European Studies Brandeis University GRALL, MS 024
>> > Waltham, MA 02454-9110
>> > 781.736.3347 (Office)
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
>> > [mailto:SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Philip Robinson
>> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:18 AM
>> > To: SEELANGS at BAMA.UA.EDU
>> > Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] a possibly minority position
>> >
>> > While we're on this subject, I am probably not the first person to
>> > make this request on SEELANGS, but it would be most helpful if those
>> > who post something in Cyrillic would also provide a Latin
>> > transliteration. As much as I prefer to read Russian and other
>> > languages in Cyrillic, about a third of the Cyrillic text in SEELANGS
>> > postings does not render correctly, and I use a variety of web-based
>> > and fat-client email readers with different encoding schemes to try to
>> parse them.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Phil Robinson
>> >
>> > At 09:08 PM 3/30/2008, you wrote:
>> >> Dustin Hosseini wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> John,
>> >>> Could you transliterate the Russian words? They came out garbled;
>> >>> or at least on my end they are all question marks ????
>> >>
>> >> Not your fault.
>> >>
>> >> John's Outlook Express 6 sent his message with the following
>> >> parameters (I've omitted the irrelevant parts):
>> >>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> >>
>> >> Seven-bit encoding will always convert Cyrillic to question marks,
>> >> and the information is cannot be recovered at the receiving end.
>> >>
>> >> I have no idea why OE decided that this message required only Western
>> >> encoding, and 7-bit to boot -- I don't use the program. Sorry.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
>> >> --
>> >> Paul B. Gallagher
>> >> pbg translations, inc.
>> >> "Russian Translations That Read Like Originals"
>> >> http://pbg-translations.com
>> >>
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