> Re: [SEELANGS] > [SEELANGS] Russian expression

[Patricia Chaput]

Perhaps a trivial addition:  as to svernutaya kasha, I think we 
would say congealed (coagulated), so that it is so sticky 
(gluteny) that it can be hard to eat without a lot of liquid to 
stir into it and stirring to break it  down into smaller lumps. 
So while it can be eaten, it  is hard to get down.  I  think the 
cold kasha is being described as inedible (for anyone with a 
choice).

Pat Chaput
Slavic Dept.
Harvard U.

On 3/16/08 10:41 AM, Ashot Vardanyan wrote:
> I agree -- it's highly unlikely, and we'd better know more context, at least the paragraph in which the sentence is used. However, re: sleeping vs eating, I remember my father telling me that sometimes their only dream was to get just a little sleep. He was in the infantry in the war. But I remember my military experience of the early 80s as well: sometimes, after the march we were really unable to eat the cold svyornutuyu (I couldn't find the English word for that) kasha...
> 
> Yes, we do need more context.
> 
> Ashot
> 
> 03/16 14:31 Robert Chandler <kcf19 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM> wrote:
> 
>>It's highly unlikely that hungry soldiers would have refused food simply
>>because it was poor quality.  Really we need a lot more context to
>>make
>>sense of this.
>>
>>R.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>My guess is there could be two explanations: either the quality
>>
>>of the meals
>>
>>>was bad -- cold, vapid, hard, etc., or the soldiers were so
>>
>>tired after a
>>
>>>battle, march, etc., that they were unable to wake up and eat
>>
>>anything.
>>
>>> 
>>>I would translate this sentence so:
>>>
>>>"Since sll this [the food] was delivered in the night / at
>>
>>night, the soldiers
>>
>>>couldn't eat the porridge if they tried."
>>>
>>>Ashot Vardanyan,
>>>University of Iowa
>>> 
>>>03/15 23:45 Sarah Hurst <sarahhurst at ALASKA.NET> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Can anyone assist me with translating the following phrase,
>>
>>which describes
>>
>>>>conditions at the front during WWII:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>‰œ”‘¡◊×Å ‹‘œ ◊”£ Œœfiÿ¿,
>>
>>‘¡À fi‘œ À¡€¡ … ◊ “œ‘ Œ≈ Ã≈⁄á.
>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>He's saying the food was delivered at night, so did the
>>
>>kasha not
>>
>>>>even make
>>>>it into the soldiers' mouths, and if not, what is he
>>
>>implying,
>>
>>>>perhaps it
>>>>was bad by the time they woke up, or does he mean they
>>
>>gulped the
>>
>>>>kasha down
>>>>quickly, or something else?
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>Sarah Hurst
>>>>
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