Fortochka
William Ryan
wfr at SAS.AC.UK
Fri Feb 4 00:44:10 UTC 2011
Yes, an honest mouth-filling word with several useful meanings, mostly
to builders and sailors, and I hope it was not offended by my earlier
posting - but it is not a fortochka. When Frankie looked over the
transom she was looking through the window over the door:
"Root-a-toot-toot, three times she shot/Right through that hotel door".
To judge from the number of variants of this song, many singers,
including Burl Ives (he has her looking over a "transom door") didn't
know what a transom was.
Will
On 03/02/2011 18:13, Hugh McLean wrote:
> I feel the excellent word "transom" has been slighted in this
> discussion. It is enshrined in my memory in the immortal lines from
> "Franky and Johnny": "Franky looked over the transom/ And there to her
> great surprise/ She saw her lover Johnny/ Snug in bed with Nelly Blize."
>> On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:43:00 +0000
>> William Ryan <wfr at SAS.AC.UK> wrote:
>>> A transom window, which may or may not open, is normally above a
>>> door transom, and full width, so not the same thing at all. Also,
>>> "fortochka" is a word used very frequently in Russian while
>>> "transom" is not much used in English.
>>
>> Agreed on transom.
>> As for the issue of frequency, the difficulty in finding a proper
>> translation may reflect the fact that while fortochki are common in
>> Russia, they are not so in Western Europe or in the U.S. So why would
>> English have a word for it? especially a common one ...
>>
>> Our classes have large windows with smaller middle bottom panes that
>> open out. Nobody knows what to call them. I'll see whether _Fine
>> Homebuilding_ has a term handy
>>
>> Ventilation window has worked for me, AFTER I explain to the students
>> what it is.
>>
>> -FR
>>
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