pereVEdeno?

[Alina Israeli]

If you listen to the interview with Remchukov, the editor of  
Nezavisimaja gazeta, at about 4 min in he says для афёры: http://www.echo.msk.ru/programs/personalno/7552 
24-echo/


In answer to John Dingley:

I have Avanesov "Orfoepicheskij slovar'" 1983, it has  
переведённый and only. The short forms are end-stressed  
only.

Same in Tixonov and C° "Словарь‒справочник" 1995  
(Москва: "Словари"), p. 407.

Same in "Slovar' grammaticheskix trudnostej" by Efremova and  
Kostomarov (Moskva: "Russkij jazyk" 1986)

Gorbachevich "Словарь‒справочник" 1973 (Leningrad:  
"Nauka") p. 315 has переведённый [не  
перевéденный], and only end-stressed short forms.


The latest dictionary I've got (it seems) is "Novyj orfoepicheskij  
slovar'" by T. F. Ivanova (Moskva: Russkij jazyk Media, 2006): same  
info as in old orfoepicheskij slovar'.

So Gorbachevich in this short survey is the only one to acknowledge  
the existence of variation in the full form, of course those who used  
the bracketed stress on the long form are likely to use the same  
stress on the short form.

Also interesting to note that Ivanova-2006 has a symbol ! to mark some  
especially important forms, which means (to me) that EVERYBODY says  
differently, for example "! íkonopis'" (and you probably thought  
"ikOnopis'"), so the participle in question does not have any such !  
symbols.



Mar 8, 2011, в 12:55 PM, John Dingley написал(а):

> Hi,
>
> My old Аванесов/Ожегов (Русское  
> литературное произношение и ударение)
> 1960 and 1983 both insist on переведённый etc, but warn  
> against
> переве́денный, which is, as Alina pointed out, a sure  
> sign that people
> were saying переве́денный. I wonder what later editions  
> of Аванесов/Ожегов
> have to say on the subject?
>
> John Dingley
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Alina Israeli <aisrael at american.edu>  
> wrote:
>
>> е>ё is probably quite productive as loan words can proove it:  
>> affaire —>
>> афёра. I am aware of the fact that dictionaries specifically  
>> state афера [не
>> афёра]. The brackets in "Trudnosti" dictionaries are a sure  
>> sign that that's
>> how a lot (too many) people are saying it. In a mocking way people  
>> say
>> слушать опёру, the rule applies: under stress, after  
>> soft, before hard.
>>

Alina Israeli
Associate Professor of Russian
LFS, American University
4400 Massachusetts Ave.
Washington DC 20016
(202) 885-2387 	fax (202) 885-1076
aisrael at american.edu





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