Dobry v. khoroshy

[bigjim at U.WASHINGTON.EDU]

I always thought that “khoroshii” was aesthetic and “dobryi” was philosophical. I think the short forms take this to an extreme, compare "ona khorosha" with "ona dobra"
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  James Augerot
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  University of Washington, Seattle 98195
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Valentino, Russell wrote:

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|I like the simplicity of the juxtaposition of “kind” and “good” in English for
|the way “dobryi” and “khoroshii” appear to be being used in the passage, esp.
|after the contrast of “khoroshii” and “plokhoi.” But I agree with David’s
|suggestion, because, from the description of the speaker Robert provided, the
|usage seems quotidian rather than philosophical.
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|Russell
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|From: SEELANGS: Slavic & East European Languages and Literatures list
|[mailto:SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Powelstock
|Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 7:01 AM
|To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
|Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Dobry v. khoroshy
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|Dear Robert & SEELANGers,
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|To my ear, dobryi is more like "good-hearted" or "well-intentioned"--while
|khoroshii is more like morally good in action or in effect. But I'm not really
|sure and look forward to hearing what native speakers have to say.
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|Cheers,
|David
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|David Powelstock
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|On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Robert Chandler <kcf19 at dial.pipex.com> wrote:
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|Dear all,
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|This is not Grossman's greatest paragraph, but I find it interesting because I
|have never seen Добрые and хорошие so clearly opposed.  Is my translation OK?
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|This brief paragraph follows a description of a woman who is capable of great
|kindness to individuals, though in many respects she behaves badly.  She swears a
|lot, is unreliable, etc.
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|Да, так кто же хорошие, кто плохие люди? Добрые люди всегда ли хорошие? А плохие
|бывают ли добрыми? А добрые все же бывают плохими? Таковы наши дамы.
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|"Yes, who can we call good and who can we call bad?  Are kind people always good?
| Can bad people be kind?  Can someone be kind and still be a bad person?"
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|Poka,
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|Robert
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|Robert Chandler, 42 Milson Road, London, W14 OLD
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