Semyon: посмотреть ее
ja tu
zarathustra2001us at YAHOO.COM
Fri Mar 29 03:20:45 UTC 2013
To see how she is/was - the closest translation to the original meaning.
Sincerely,
>
>Ivan Zhavoronkov
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From: Elena Ostrovskaya <elena.ostrovskaya at GMAIL.COM>
To: SEELANGS at LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SEELANGS] Semyon: посмотреть ее
Interesting question. My understanding of this phrase has always been that посмотреть ее = to check on her, hence the transitive verb. In terms of constructions, that is, посмотреть ее = посмотреть, как она, which is different from посмотреть на нее, of course. And to my ear, this particular use does not sound as Platonov's grammar twist, but as a use possible in colloquial Russian. Unfortunately, my quick dictionary search has not provided me with any examples of this use.
So, for what it may be worth.
Best,
Elena
2013/3/24 Robert Chandler <kcf19 at dial.pipex.com>
Dear all,
>Can anyone tell me the effect of this unusual omission of the preposition на?
>Мать по-прежнему лежала на полу на перине, покрытая одеялом, а сверху большой дерюгой. Она спряталась там с головой и не вставала. Семен подошел к матери -- посмотреть ее и спросить, что ему нужно делать с утра, чего стряпать ребятишкам и где занять денег до получки отца. -- Не надо ее открывать,-- сказал отец Семену,-- она под утро умерла.Semyon went over to his mother to look on her ??? and ask what needed doing this morning: what should he cook for the children, and where could he borrow some money until father got paid.
> Normal phrasing would be “посмотреть на нее,” wouldn’t it? But Platonov has “посмотреть ее.”
>All the best,
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