new track: ?uN
Koontz John E
John.Koontz at colorado.edu
Wed Jun 21 16:09:21 UTC 2000
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, R. Rankin wrote:
> Interesting that Omaha has lost the instrument prefix. Mus' be areal.
> "Normally" 'use' is 'do with', *i-?uN (BI y-oN, TU i-oN, etc.)
No trace of it in Omaha-Ponca. And in Dakotan it is missing, too, of
course. The ?uN 'use' verb is actually the instrumental postposition,
right? In Omaha-Ponca the analog of that is to put an i-locative on the
main verb and make the instrument an argument of that verb.
> Do you find anything at all in Omaha that would suggest the 'be'
> meaning?? I'm wondering how widespread it is and I have no statistics.
No trace of it that I'm aware of. 'To be' with nouns and the occasional
verbal quality expression is bdhiN/niN/-- (enclitic). Since this is
enclitic often to the demonstrative e, that e often shows up alone in the
third person. I don't think I have an dhiN 'to be' examples for the third
person, though that's obviously the stem. 'To be there (to be located)'
involves using e=di (liek Da e=l ~ e=tu) as a predicate, or e=d(i)=e=di,
which I think is actually 'to be there (to be at that place)'. The verb
thaN (maybe ttaN (?) as Dorsey's open quote is very unreliable) is 'to
exist, to abound'.
> I feel that the aspectual or temporal auxiliary meaning of the
> semi-grammaticalized form of *?uN that we find in all the Dhegiha
> dialects could be more easily derived from 'be/was' than from 'do/did',
> although the 'exist' meaning isn't as congenial..
Dorsey often translates this auxiliary as 'do/did', if he translates it at
all.
> In QU it seems to have the 'imperfective' meaning, but it sees a lot of
> use in Dorsey's Omaha texts and may have developed into a 'past' or
> 'perfect' there??
Dorsey often renders clause final *dhaN* as 'past'. So far I haven't
studied the contexts thoroughly. Of course he often renders clause final
*the* in the same way, or as 'the'. But when *dhaN* appears after *the*
or in various other places I'm pretty sure it really must mean something
like 'past'. I wonder, of course, if some *dhaN* alone might be
evidentials.
JEK
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