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[David Kaufman]

Hi Violet,

Thanks for your insights!  It looks like "-pi" is actually a verbal suffix
since both "thipi" and "iyapi" both have the same endings?  What exactly
would be the meaning of "-ohe"?  I wonder if this difference between "thipi"
and "thi-ohe" is similar perhaps to our difference in English between
"house" and "home"--where "home" usually indicates that someone lives in it
as opposed to a "house" which is generic or could be an empty
house?--although I'm not sure how much of a distinction we make in English
between these two, since I think the two are frequently used
interchangeably.

What about an attribute like "tall"?  Would you express this as we do in
English ("He is tall") or would "tall" be a verb form as it appears to be in
Hidatsa (and Mojave)?

Can you think of other instances where you might express what is a noun in
English as a verb form in your native language or where you might think of
something as a verb that appears as a noun in English?

I know I'm full of questions!  Curiosity gets the best of me....

Thank you and take care,
Dave








>From: "Violet Catches" <napshawin at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>Subject: Re: Information
>Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:08:49 -0600
>
>Hi
>thipi means that it is a place being lived in, there is movement, and all
>the things that include a dweling, it is an act  of living in the present
>thipi is also a structure, but an erect structure, a home, a place being
>dwelled in, so an empty house is referred to as a thi-ohe, where there is
>no dwelling
>thi-ohe means a place once dwelled in that no longer exists, there is no
>movement, no dwelling no life..
>iyapi means that they are speaking, the words are flowing, stopping and
>flowing in a continual manner, except of course when one sleeps, another
>meaning for iyapi is that they are complaining...
>As a native american it was extremely difficult for me to understand verbs
>as defined and nouns, It was the nouns that gave me the most problems,
>because I use to think that 'thipi' and 'iyapi'  and other words like that
>were 'verbs', but it was really the English that was confusing...
>in the old way, I think, the word for the structure of a thipi (as we know
>it today) was thiyuktan, but that also looks like a verb,  but was actually
>the structure. Do you know other Sioux speakers? if you do they may recall
>that  as well.
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