Virtues-wolves-coyotes
Alan Knutson
boris at terracom.net
Tue Jul 16 17:02:03 UTC 2002
Bruce
The Avonlea complex was centered in southern Saskatchewan, also occurs in
Alberta, and western Manitoba, with a probability of northern North Dakota.
Websites on the Avonlea complex are:
http://www.umanitoba.ca/faculties/arts/anthropology/manarchnet/chronology/wo
odland/avonlea.html
http://www.heritage-online.net/Timeline/avonlea.htm
Also in terms of the wolverine, alternate names are the 'glutton' or
'grison', "Gulo gulo", the Smithsonian website indicates the
wolverine occurred as far south as 37°N (northern boundary of Oklahoma),
also I believe that the wolverine was encountered by Lewis and Clark on
their trip. Just imagine a 50-100kg animal, as fast as a cat but with the
temper of a cranky badger.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: <bi1 at soas.ac.uk>
To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: Virtues-wolves-coyotes
> Interesting. Is the 'metal' term a 'maza' cognate? Whereabouts is
> the Avonlea culture?
> Bruce
> On 16 Jul 2002, at 10:24, Koontz John E wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 bi1 at soas.ac.uk wrote:
> > > I do agree that a connection with Navaho or Apache seems unlikely in
> > > terms of the movement of these groups and the geography involved.
> >
> > Actually, it would depend on when you assumed the contact. The Apache,
or
> > some of them, were on the western Plains into the 1700s. The Spanish
> > encountered the Apache on the Plains north and east of the Pueblos. The
> > Plains Apache never left the Plains, of course. The usual ethnographic
> > assessment is that the Apache were pushed into the Southwest by the
> > Comanche entering the Plains and moving south the get better access to
> > Spanish horses. Archaeologists are still arguing as to what portion of
> > the southern Athabascans came south by way of the Plains and the Basin.
> > The Navajo are usually said to have used the Basin route.
> >
> > The northern Plains Avonlea culture is sometimes considered to be early
> > Athbascan, and it has at least one offshoot in north central Minnesota
> > sometime around 1000 AD or so - I'm not sure I remember the date
properly.
> > There is another possible lexical sharings between Athabascan and
Siouan,
> > the 'metal' term.
> >
> > JEK
> >
>
>
>
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