Oooops!

[David Kaufman]

Blair,

Thanks for the "andare" lesson.  Interesting.  It would be interesting
perhaps to check some old Spanish/Portuguese/Italian texts and see what verb
form they may have been using soon after the break-off from Classical Latin.
  A good project for me to do some time!

Dave


>From: BARudes at aol.com
>Reply-To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>Subject: Re: Oooops!
>Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:09:08 EDT
>
>Dave,
>
>Bob Rankin gave the history correctly in an earlier responses to RE:
>Andare.
>Andare is not attested for Classical or Vulgar Latin.  Bob Hall proposed a
>reconstruction *amDlare (where D represents a Greek Delta -- an arbitrary
>symbol used to represent an uncertain sound) to account for It. andare, Sp.
>andar, Pt. andar, as well as Franco-Provencal and Provencal anar and French
>aller.  He related *amDlare to Latin ambulare, assuming syncope of the
>second
>vowel and assimilation of mb to l.  There are a number of problems with the
>reconstruction, among which are the fact that reflexes of purported
>*amDlare
>are attested only in Italo-Western Romance -- no cognate is found in
>Romanian, Dalmatian, Sardinian or even in Rheto-Romance (Western Romance)
>and
>some Italian dialects (Italo-Romance).  Second, the cluster *mbl that
>supposedly resulted from the syncope of the second vowel of ambulare  would
>have been a unique cluster in Proto-Romance, and thus its outcome would be
>unpredictable (which might explain the otherwise unique correspondene of
>Northern French /l/ to /n/ in the rest of Western Romance and Italian --
>Bob
>Hall assumed that -mbl- > -mDl- > -ndl- > -nn- (Italo-Western except
>Northern
>French)/-ll- (Northern French).  As Bob Rankin noted, *amDlare was not a
>very
>satisfactory reconstruction for Proto-Romance.
>
>Blair


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