Oooops!

David Kaufman dvklinguist at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 5 17:18:43 UTC 2002


Blair,

Just out of curiosity, where can I get a copy of an all-Rumanian dictionary
similar to what you have referenced (other than in Rumania!)?  While I've
studied Rumanian, as I have all the principal Romance languages, I don't
have much practice with it, but I find having a dictionary completely in the
foreign language is helpful for building vocabulary as well as for
etymological reasons.  Thanks,

Dave K.


>From: BARudes at aol.com
>Reply-To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>Subject: Re: Oooops!
>Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:06:13 EDT
>
>Alan,
>
>Most of my reference works on Romanian and Rheto-Romance are at my
>university
>office, whereas I am at home until Friday.  I will give you a more detailed
>response then.  Meanwhile, here is what the Dictionarul Explicativ al
>Limbii
>Roma^ne (Bucharest: Editura Academiei Republicii Socialiste Roma^nia, 1975)
>has to say on the subject of the Romanian forms:
>
>Page 993: Umbla, umblu, v. I. Intranz. I.1. A se deplasa dintr-un loc in
>altui (to move from one place to another); a merge (to go); ... [Var. :
>(inv.
>si pop. (learned and local) i^mbla vb. 1] - Lat. ambulare].
>
>If I remember correctly, the dialectal form i^mnare (which by the way is a
>noun, not an infinitive since Latin infinitives became Romanian nouns
>(compare Romanian avere 'possessions' and French avoir 'have'); infinitives
>in Romanian are rare (normally found only after forms of the verb a putea
>'be
>able' in the standard dialect) and lack the infinitive suffix of Latin
>(Proto-Romance)) is a regular, dialect internal development (assimilation),
>of  umbla/i^mbla 'go, move' .  Thus, the Romanian forms can be derived
>directly from ambulare without any intermediate Proto-Romance form
>*amDlare.
>I also believe (but will have to check) that there is some question about
>whether this verb was inherited directly from Proto-Romance or is a later
>(learned) addition to the language.
>
>I will get back to you on the Rheto-Romance forms.
>
>Blair


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