On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Koontz John E wrote: > Winnebago maNaN 'earth, ground, year' I found the missing Ioway-Otoe form: maN 'ground, dirt, soil' and also: 'weather' This may be the missing link. 'Season' and 'year' are a phase and the cycle of 'weather', which is 'something in the ground' or 'something in the land'.