Fw: Error Condition Re: Re: transitivity, etc,

[Shannon West]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu
> [mailto:owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu]On Behalf Of R. Rankin
> Sent: September 29, 2002 4:16 PM
> To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
> Subject: Re: Fw: Error Condition Re: Re: transitivity, etc,
>
>
> I think all the MVS languages have this pattern with at
> least a few of those "experiencer" verbs.  They're not
> just Dakotan, and you can get two stative pronominals.
> Membership in the class varies, just as stative-status
> does across Siouan.
>
> If you believe that "subject" is part of "UG", then you
> have verbs with stative subjects acting transitively on
> objects -- both marked w/ pronominals from the
> "stative" set.

I'm wondering about this too. Given that I do have to work with a 'subject',
a work-around is going to be in order. Is there any chance that the either
the subject or object of these verbs is different in some way? A dative
perhaps? (I'm grasping at straws). Also, is there some ordering difference
with these? I have a set that is completely incomprehensible to me.

Linda? Do you have a set of these in Nakota? Any idea at all how they work,
because they seem to be out to lunch and completely different from many of
the Lakhota ones.

Shannon
(I am *so* hoping to deal with this as a 'I don't know how this works, it
requires further study'. <grin>)